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Re: There is no black hole in Sgr A *

From moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Newsgroups sci.physics
Subject Re: There is no black hole in Sgr A *
Date 2017-04-29 06:06 +0000
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john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:

>MM
>"

>Simply put, if there's nothing there, there's nothing to spin. Spin is just 
>a form of motion of matter, after all. "

>You think if all the matter as we know it is
>taken away there will be nothing?
>Yet you defend DM?

You are more confused than I thought.  First you say there is no dark
matter (you never did offer a reason why not) and you say that no matter
could be in the nothing spinning, so there's nothing there spinning. Now
you suggest there's dark matter in there??

You never did answer "what about non-rotating black holes".

Also explain the orbits of stars that are orbiting SGR A*.  If there is
nothing there, why are the stars orbiting as if there were a couple 
million solar masses there????

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There is no black hole in Sgr A * Enes Richard <pies_na_teorie@vp.pl> - 2017-04-22 07:42 -0700
  There is no black hole in Sgr A * john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-04-22 08:22 -0700
    Re: There is no black hole in Sgr A * Enes Richard <pies_na_teorie@vp.pl> - 2017-04-22 11:49 -0700
    Re: There is no black hole in Sgr A * pnalsing@gmail.com - 2017-04-22 12:43 -0700
    There is no black hole in Sgr A * HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-04-23 10:06 -0700
      Re: There is no black hole in Sgr A * Enes Richard <pies_na_teorie@vp.pl> - 2017-04-23 12:39 -0700
        Re: There is no black hole in Sgr A * pnalsing@gmail.com - 2017-04-23 13:05 -0700
          Re: There is no black hole in Sgr A * Enes Richard <pies_na_teorie@vp.pl> - 2017-04-23 13:29 -0700
            Re: There is no black hole in Sgr A * pnalsing@gmail.com - 2017-04-23 13:50 -0700
              Re: There is no black hole in Sgr A * Enes Richard <pies_na_teorie@vp.pl> - 2017-04-23 14:29 -0700
                Re: There is no black hole in Sgr A * pnalsing@gmail.com - 2017-04-23 16:30 -0700
                Re: There is no black hole in Sgr A * Enes Richard <pies_na_teorie@vp.pl> - 2017-04-24 02:12 -0700
                Re: There is no black hole in Sgr A * Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-04-24 09:01 -0700
                Re: There is no black hole in Sgr A * Enes Richard <pies_na_teorie@vp.pl> - 2017-04-24 13:17 -0700
                Re: There is no black hole in Sgr A * Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-04-25 14:57 -0700
                Re: There is no black hole in Sgr A * Enes Richard <pies_na_teorie@vp.pl> - 2017-04-26 12:42 -0700
                Re: There is no black hole in Sgr A * john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-04-26 13:15 -0700
                Re: There is no black hole in Sgr A * Enes Richard <pies_na_teorie@vp.pl> - 2017-04-27 05:53 -0700
                Re: There is no black hole in Sgr A * Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-04-27 09:47 -0700
                Re: Not even Stephen Hawking believes in (true) black/worm holes anymore. Enes Richard <pies_na_teorie@vp.pl> - 2017-05-08 13:56 -0700
                Re: Not even Stephen Hawking believes in (true) black/worm holes anymore. Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2017-05-08 15:37 -0700
                Re: Not even Stephen Hawking believes in (true) black/worm holes anymore. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-05-08 20:03 -0700
                Re: Not even Stephen Hawking believes in (true) black/worm holes anymore. pnalsing@gmail.com - 2017-05-08 20:11 -0700
                Re: Not even Stephen Hawking believes in (true) black/worm holes anymore. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-05-09 06:18 -0700
                Re: Not even Stephen Hawking believes in (true) black/worm holes anymore. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-09 08:27 -0500
                Re: Not even Stephen Hawking believes in (true) black/worm holes anymore. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-05-09 06:32 -0700
                Re: Not even Stephen Hawking believes in (true) black/worm holes anymore. pnalsing@gmail.com - 2017-05-09 06:34 -0700
                Re: Not even Stephen Hawking believes in (true) black/worm holes anymore. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-17 13:24 -0500
                Re: Not even Stephen Hawking believes in (true) black/worm holes anymore. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-05-17 15:19 -0700
                Re: Not even Stephen Hawking believes in (true) black/worm holes anymore. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-18 08:51 -0500
                Re: Not even Stephen Hawking believes in (true) black/worm holes anymore. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-05-18 08:21 -0700
                Re: Not even Stephen Hawking believes in (true) black/worm holes anymore. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-05-18 08:30 -0700
                Re: Not even Stephen Hawking believes in (true) black/worm holes anymore. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-05-18 08:33 -0700
                Re: Not even Stephen Hawking believes in (true) black/worm holes anymore. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-18 12:08 -0500
                Re: Not even Stephen Hawking believes in (true) black/worm holes anymore. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-05-18 10:55 -0700
                Re: Not even Stephen Hawking believes in (true) black/worm holes anymore. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-18 13:14 -0500
                Re: Not even Stephen Hawking believes in (true) black/worm holes anymore. pnalsing@gmail.com - 2017-05-09 06:32 -0700
                Re: Not even Stephen Hawking believes in (true) black/worm holes anymore. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-05-09 06:36 -0700
                Re: Not even Stephen Hawking believes in (true) black/worm holes anymore. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-09 09:11 -0500
                Re: Not even Stephen Hawking believes in (true) black/worm holes anymore. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-05-09 07:31 -0700
                Re: Not even Stephen Hawking believes in (true) black/worm holes anymore. pnalsing@gmail.com - 2017-05-09 08:37 -0700
                Re: Not even Stephen Hawking believes in (true) black/worm holes anymore. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-09 15:21 -0500
                Re: Not even Stephen Hawking believes in (true) black/worm holes anymore. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-05-09 13:43 -0700
                Re: Not even Stephen Hawking believes in (true) black/worm holes anymore. pnalsing@gmail.com - 2017-05-09 14:05 -0700
                Re: Not even Stephen Hawking believes in (true) black/worm holes anymore. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-05-09 14:24 -0700
                Re: Not even Stephen Hawking believes in (true) black/worm holes anymore. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-09 16:45 -0500
                Re: Not even Stephen Hawking believes in (true) black/worm holes anymore. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-05-09 15:22 -0700
                Re: Not even Stephen Hawking believes in (true) black/worm holes anymore. pnalsing@gmail.com - 2017-05-09 15:36 -0700
                Re: Not even Stephen Hawking believes in (true) black/worm holes anymore. Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-05-10 05:26 -0700
                Re: Not even Stephen Hawking believes in (true) black/worm holes anymore. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-05-10 08:14 -0700
                Re: Not even Stephen Hawking believes in (true) black/worm holes anymore. Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-05-10 10:21 -0700
                Re: Not even Stephen Hawking believes in (true) black/worm holes anymore. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-05-10 10:52 -0700
                Re: Not even Stephen Hawking believes in (true) black/worm holes anymore. Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-05-11 10:57 -0700
                Re: Not even Stephen Hawking believes in (true) black/worm holes anymore. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-05-11 13:44 -0700
                Re: Not even Stephen Hawking believes in (true) black/worm holes anymore. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-12 01:08 +0000
                Re: Not even Stephen Hawking believes in (true) black/worm holes anymore. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-05-12 05:24 -0700
                Re: Not even Stephen Hawking believes in (true) black/worm holes anymore. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-12 16:27 +0000
                Re: Not even Stephen Hawking believes in (true) black/worm holes anymore. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-05-13 05:44 -0700
                Re: Not even Stephen Hawking believes in (true) black/worm holes anymore. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-13 14:24 +0000
                Re: Not even Stephen Hawking believes in (true) black/worm holes anymore. HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-05-13 06:54 -0700
                Re: Not even Stephen Hawking believes in (true) black/worm holes anymore. pnalsing@gmail.com - 2017-05-09 15:33 -0700
                Re: Not even Stephen Hawking believes in (true) black/worm holes anymore. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-05-09 15:37 -0700
                Re: Not even Stephen Hawking believes in (true) black/worm holes anymore. pnalsing@gmail.com - 2017-05-09 15:51 -0700
                Re: Not even Stephen Hawking believes in (true) black/worm holes anymore. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-05-09 15:58 -0700
                Re: Not even Stephen Hawking believes in (true) black/worm holes anymore. pnalsing@gmail.com - 2017-05-09 16:34 -0700
                Re: Not even Stephen Hawking believes in (true) black/worm holes anymore. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-05-09 19:31 -0700
                Re: Not even Stephen Hawking believes in (true) black/worm holes anymore. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-10 17:17 +0000
                Re: Not even Stephen Hawking believes in (true) black/worm holes anymore. Enes Richard <pies_na_teorie@vp.pl> - 2017-05-10 03:57 -0700
                Re: Not even Stephen Hawking believes in (true) black/worm holes anymore. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-09 16:43 -0500
                Re: Not even Stephen Hawking believes in (true) black/worm holes anymore. Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2017-05-09 14:21 -0700
                Re: Not even Stephen Hawking believes in (true) black/worm holes anymore. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-13 14:02 +0000
                Re: There is no black hole in Sgr A * john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-04-27 10:59 -0700
                Re: There is no black hole in Sgr A * moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-04-28 02:15 +0000
                Re: There is no black hole in Sgr A * john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-04-28 07:21 -0700
                Re: There is no black hole in Sgr A * moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-04-28 16:09 +0000
                Re: There is no black hole in Sgr A * john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-04-28 16:03 -0700
                Re: There is no black hole in Sgr A * moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-04-29 06:06 +0000
                Re: There is no black hole in Sgr A * john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-04-29 05:50 -0700
                Re: There is no black hole in Sgr A * moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-04-29 18:52 +0000
                Re: There is no black hole in Sgr A * john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-04-30 06:18 -0700
                Re: There is no black hole in Sgr A * john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-04-30 06:28 -0700
                Re: There is no black hole in Sgr A * moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-01 02:58 +0000
                Re: There is no black hole in Sgr A * Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-01 08:33 -0500
                Re: There is no black hole in Sgr A * john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-05-07 20:23 -0700
                Re: There is no black hole in Sgr A * HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-05-08 06:17 -0700
                Re: There is no black hole in Sgr A * Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-08 08:40 -0500
                Re: There is no black hole in Sgr A * john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-05-08 09:53 -0700
                Re: There is no black hole in Sgr A * Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-08 12:07 -0500
                Re: There is no black hole in Sgr A * moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-01 02:55 +0000
                Re: There is no black hole in Sgr A * Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-29 10:23 -0500
                Re: There is no black hole in Sgr A * john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-04-29 08:28 -0700
                Re: There is no black hole in Sgr A * Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-29 10:31 -0500
                Re: There is no black hole in Sgr A * moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-04-29 17:40 +0000
                Re: There is no black hole in Sgr A * john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-04-26 13:19 -0700
                Re: There is no black hole in Sgr A * Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-04-27 09:18 -0700
                Re: There is no black hole in Sgr A * Enes Richard <pies_na_teorie@vp.pl> - 2017-04-26 13:39 -0700
                Re: There is no black hole in Sgr A * Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-04-27 09:22 -0700
                Re: There is no black hole in Sgr A * Enes Richard <pies_na_teorie@vp.pl> - 2017-04-28 00:52 -0700
                Re: There is no black hole in Sgr A * Enes Richard <pies_na_teorie@vp.pl> - 2017-04-24 03:47 -0700
      Re: There is no black hole in Sgr A * benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2017-04-24 00:47 -0400
        Re: There is no black hole in Sgr A * Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-04-24 08:07 -0700

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