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Re: How to fix warning: [-Wdate-time]

From David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no>
Newsgroups comp.lang.c
Subject Re: How to fix warning: [-Wdate-time]
Date 2017-04-17 20:04 +0200
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On 17/04/17 17:08, Keith Thompson wrote:
> David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> writes:
>> On 14/04/17 20:26, James Kuyper wrote:
>>> On 04/14/2017 01:42 PM, Ken Brody wrote:
>>>> On 4/14/2017 11:50 AM, Keith Thompson wrote:
>>> ...
>>>>> Why can't you just invoke the compiler without the "-Wdate-time" option,
>>>>> or with "-Wno-date-time"?
>>>>
>>>> Sometimes you only want to disable a warning for a particular piece of code.
>>>>   Why force an entire project to be compiled with "-Wno-date-time" for one
>>>> macro?
>>>
>>> Because the entire project is one for which the motivations for that
>>> warning don't apply? It is really a rather obscure issue to be warning
>>> about.
>>>
>>
>> IMHO, it is a very good thing to be warning about.  If your program
>> contains the macros __DATA__ or __TIME__, then your builds are not
>> reproducible.  I cannot think of any other way to make a build
>> non-deterministic, at least on compilers I have used.
>>
>> That means that as long as you avoid these macros, you can use the
>> generated binary file as a way to check that you have exactly the same
>> build as on a previous occasion.  If you are working on software where
>> you need to check or qualify your builds in a particular manner, this is
>> essential.
>>
>> So my thoughts about how to "fix" this warning is simply to avoid using
>> __DATE__ or __TIME__.
>
> Sure, the -Wdate-date option is useful if you need reproducible builds.
> But if you're using __DATE__ and __TIME__, then you apparently *don't*
> need reproducible builds.

Yes - or you are using the macros without considering the repercussions 
for reproducible builds.  Whatever the OP was thinking originally, I 
hope that by now he knows the pros and cons of using the macros, and can 
make an informed decision.

>
> The OP, Mehdi Amini, seems to want to use both -Wdate-time and
> __DATE__/__TIME__, and is looking for (and has found) a way to turn off
> the effect of -Wdate-time for just one source file.  That seems frankly
> silly.

It might be reasonable to have __DATE__ and __TIME__ as part of code 
that is conditionally compiled in debug or development builds, and 
disabled at a later date.  In such circumstances, you may then want to 
allow the macros in a piece of code that you know will be disabled 
before "real" builds.

>
> I can imagine using -Wdate-time by default and comparing object files,
> and then making an exception for the one source file that uses __DATE__
> and __TIME__, but the Mehdi's only stated rationale for using
> -Wdate-time is that "IMHO this warning exists for a reason".
>

Presumably he now understands this reason, and can decide what he wants 
to do about it.

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How to fix warning: [-Wdate-time] MehdiAmini <atorrses@gmail.com> - 2017-04-13 14:44 +0430
  Re: How to fix warning: [-Wdate-time] Barry Schwarz <schwarzb@dqel.com> - 2017-04-13 05:28 -0700
    Re: How to fix warning: [-Wdate-time] MehdiAmini <atorrses@gmail.com> - 2017-04-14 12:55 +0430
      Re: How to fix warning: [-Wdate-time] Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-04-14 08:50 -0700
        Re: How to fix warning: [-Wdate-time] Ken Brody <kenbrody@spamcop.net> - 2017-04-14 13:42 -0400
          Re: How to fix warning: [-Wdate-time] James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2017-04-14 14:26 -0400
            Re: How to fix warning: [-Wdate-time] David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-04-17 16:26 +0200
              Re: How to fix warning: [-Wdate-time] "James R. Kuyper" <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2017-04-17 10:52 -0400
                Re: How to fix warning: [-Wdate-time] David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-04-17 20:00 +0200
              Re: How to fix warning: [-Wdate-time] Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-04-17 08:08 -0700
                Re: How to fix warning: [-Wdate-time] David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-04-17 20:04 +0200
        Re: How to fix warning: [-Wdate-time] Mehdi Amini <atorrses@gmail.com> - 2017-04-15 07:50 +0430
          Re: How to fix warning: [-Wdate-time] Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-04-15 15:05 -0700
            Re: How to fix warning: [-Wdate-time] Ken Brody <kenbrody@spamcop.net> - 2017-04-17 11:42 -0400
              Re: How to fix warning: [-Wdate-time] supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-04-17 08:55 -0700
              Re: How to fix warning: [-Wdate-time] "James R. Kuyper" <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2017-04-17 11:57 -0400
  Re: How to fix warning: [-Wdate-time] gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2017-04-13 13:09 +0000
    Re: How to fix warning: [-Wdate-time] jadill33@gmail.com - 2017-04-13 06:27 -0700
      Re: How to fix warning: [-Wdate-time] supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-04-15 08:56 -0700
        Re: How to fix warning: [-Wdate-time] Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-04-15 15:01 -0700
          Re: How to fix warning: [-Wdate-time] supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-04-16 11:44 -0700
            Re: How to fix warning: [-Wdate-time] Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-04-16 13:45 -0700
              Re: How to fix warning: [-Wdate-time] Ken Brody <kenbrody@spamcop.net> - 2017-04-17 12:14 -0400
            Re: How to fix warning: [-Wdate-time] Ken Brody <kenbrody@spamcop.net> - 2017-04-17 12:06 -0400
              Re: How to fix warning: [-Wdate-time] Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-04-17 09:25 -0700
              Re: How to fix warning: [-Wdate-time] "James R. Kuyper" <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2017-04-17 12:45 -0400
                Re: How to fix warning: [-Wdate-time] Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-04-17 12:02 -0700
                Re: How to fix warning: [-Wdate-time] "James R. Kuyper" <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2017-04-17 15:23 -0400
                Re: How to fix warning: [-Wdate-time] Lowell Gilbert <lgusenet@be-well.ilk.org> - 2017-04-18 13:27 -0400
                Re: How to fix warning: [-Wdate-time] Ken Brody <kenbrody@spamcop.net> - 2017-04-18 14:23 -0400
                Re: How to fix warning: [-Wdate-time] Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-04-18 12:10 -0700
                Re: How to fix warning: [-Wdate-time] raltbos@xs4all.nl (Richard Bos) - 2017-04-22 21:20 +0000
                Re: How to fix warning: [-Wdate-time] James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2017-04-22 22:45 -0400
          Re: How to fix warning: [-Wdate-time] Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2017-04-17 11:30 -0700
            Re: How to fix warning: [-Wdate-time] Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-04-17 12:30 -0700
              Re: How to fix warning: [-Wdate-time] raltbos@xs4all.nl (Richard Bos) - 2017-04-22 21:24 +0000
                Re: How to fix warning: [-Wdate-time] Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2017-04-27 13:33 -0700
              Re: How to fix warning: [-Wdate-time] Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2017-04-27 13:26 -0700
    Re: How to fix warning: [-Wdate-time] gordonb.5zr1e@burditt.org (Gordon Burditt) - 2017-04-14 13:35 -0500
      Re: How to fix warning: [-Wdate-time] supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-04-14 12:17 -0700
        Re: How to fix warning: [-Wdate-time] gordonb.k4gmo@burditt.org (Gordon Burditt) - 2017-04-16 00:04 -0500
        Re: How to fix warning: [-Wdate-time] Noob <root@127.0.0.1> - 2017-04-16 11:04 +0200
          Re: How to fix warning: [-Wdate-time] supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-04-16 11:52 -0700
          Re: How to fix warning: [-Wdate-time] raltbos@xs4all.nl (Richard Bos) - 2017-04-22 21:28 +0000
    Re: How to fix warning: [-Wdate-time] Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2017-04-18 21:34 -0600
  Re: How to fix warning: [-Wdate-time] Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-04-17 08:09 -0700

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