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| From | rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.lang.forth |
| Subject | Re: 6502 anyone ? |
| Date | 2017-04-13 14:23 -0400 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
| Message-ID | <ocofhh$3b4$1@dont-email.me> (permalink) |
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On 4/13/2017 1:42 PM, lehs wrote: > Den torsdag 13 april 2017 kl. 19:02:01 UTC+2 skrev Andrew Haley: >> rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> wrote: >>> On 4/13/2017 3:42 AM, lehs wrote: >>>> Cont. >>>> Since computer programs can't experience growing up as humans there is no way for it to have all this knowledge. And the ALU will never be aware of it self. >>> >>> Nothing you have said precludes a machine becoming self aware. In >>> particular the above statement is false. Computers can and *do* learn. >>> There have been a number of computer programs that learn from experience. >>> >>> http://bfy.tw/BDB2 >> >> :-) >> >> I'm surprised that anybody can repeat the computers only do what >> they're told and can't invent anything", given the recent work at >> DeepMind with AlphaGo. This really wasn't a brute-force tree search >> of the kind used by chess porgrams. >> >> Andrew. > > That's a straw-man. I agree with that computers could learn, of course. But they can never experience to be humans or express human thoughts as a result of a mind. You are using very odd phrasing. What exactly do you mean by "they can never experience to be humans". As I have said, they can't "be humans" in the same way an ant can't be a dog. But there is no reason to think a machine can't be self aware and capable of similar thought to the thoughts of a human. The statement that a machine can't "express human thoughts as a result of a mind" is just plain unsupportable. You keep making claims, but offer nothing to support them. -- Rick C
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