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Re: non-coordinate basis

From "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: non-coordinate basis
Date 2017-04-05 20:54 +1000
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On 05/04/17 12:28, Tom Roberts wrote:
> On 4/3/17 4/3/17   6:44 PM, sdru.product@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Monday, April 3, 2017 at 12:13:04 PM UTC-10, tjrob137 wrote:

> At the level of detail required, "velocity" is ambiguous, so I discuss
> two quite different answers, both in the context of GR and differential
> geometry (the only context of physics in which "non-coordinate basis"
> makes sense).
>
>      Note: a non-coordinate basis is called "anholonomic basis".
>      Google will lead you on an interesting chase if you don't
>      know what that means. It has a background I did not know.
>      Also consider "Vierbein" / "frame field", a specific type.
>
> If "velocity" means 3-velocity, which is the only meaning for which
> "speed" makes sense, the answer is clearly: no (up to equivalence).
> Defining or measuring 3-velocity requires one to foliate spacetime into
> space and time, and that requires coordinates (or something equivalent).
> Speed is of course the norm of the 3-velocity.
>
> If "velocity" means 4-velocity, then "speed" is meaningless (a timelike
> 4-velocity always has unit norm, a null 4-velocity always has zero norm,
> and 4-velocity cannot be spacelike). In general, a 4-velocity is the
> tangent vector to a timelike or null worldline through spacetime. This
> is a geometrical quantity completely independent of coordinates or basis
> -- it can certainly be projected onto any basis, coordinate or
> otherwise, so here the answer is clearly: yes. But 4-velocity is a
> purely theoretical concept that cannot be directly measured; only its
> components can be measured, and such measurements are invariably
> relative to some coordinates (not just the basis, but the coordinates
> themselves).
>
>      There certainly are manifolds of GR for which an anholonomic
>      basis is quite useful in analysis; they are very different
>      from the world we inhabit.

Readers note how when cornered, Tom Roberts resorts to expressing 
himself with the complex but meaningless jargon of the dingleberry, in 
the hope that his critics will be fooled into concluding that their 
arguments are without foundation.

Tom, the game's up for you and Einstein. The joke has gone far enough 
and physics really needs to get back on the right track so some real 
progress can be made.

Einstein's theory is wrong, In the world normal people inhabit, light is 
ballistic...so get used to it.

> If you had hoped for a short, simple, sound bite answer, sorry. There
> are very few of those in physics.
>
> Tom Roberts


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    Re: A Very Hard Question for Ralph Rabbidge. "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-03 12:07 +1000
  Re: A Very Hard Question for Dingleberries. "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-04-02 10:14 +0200
    Re: A Very Hard Question for Dingleberries. Nken Kajiura <unuur@wkjkj.ni> - 2017-04-02 12:55 +0000
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        Re: A Very Hard Question for Ralph Rabbidge. mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-03 08:47 -0700
          Re: A Very Hard Question for Ralph Rabbidge. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-03 12:44 -0700
            Re: A Very Hard Question for Ralph Rabbidge. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-03 15:28 -0500
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              Re: A Very Hard Question for Ralph Rabbidge. mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-03 23:11 -0700
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  Re: A Very Hard Question for Dingleberries. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-04-03 17:12 -0500
    Re: A Very Hard Question for Dingleberries. sdru.product@gmail.com - 2017-04-03 16:44 -0700
      non-coordinate basis (was: Re: A Very Hard Question for Dingleberries.) Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-04-04 21:28 -0500
        Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-05 20:54 +1000
          Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-05 08:38 -0500
            Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-06 09:24 +1000
              Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-05 18:56 -0500
          Re: non-coordinate basis Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-04-07 21:57 -0500
            Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-09 08:58 +1000
              Re: non-coordinate basis Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-04-10 11:48 -0500
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-11 08:50 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-11 07:51 -0500
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-12 07:35 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-11 17:46 -0500
                Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-12 21:39 +0100
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-13 08:30 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-13 09:38 +0100
                Re: non-coordinate basis mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-13 02:05 -0700
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-14 09:08 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-14 20:56 +0100
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-16 08:24 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-04-16 09:49 +0200
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-17 11:22 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-04-17 11:07 +0200
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-18 08:55 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-04-18 10:22 +0200
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-19 15:28 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-04-19 09:51 +0200
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-21 09:39 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-20 17:24 -0700
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-22 19:19 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-22 05:05 -0700
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-23 09:43 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-22 20:19 -0700
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-24 08:57 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-23 21:20 -0700
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-24 18:10 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-24 05:31 -0700
                Re: non-coordinate basis mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-24 05:58 -0700
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-25 08:58 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Lintervallen Ruther <rt@lweaevte.ri> - 2017-04-24 06:01 +0000
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-24 17:58 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2017-04-24 16:30 -0700
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-26 09:13 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-04-26 21:30 -0500
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-28 18:14 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-28 01:23 -0700
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-29 08:54 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-29 14:00 -0700
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-01 09:34 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-01 07:55 -0500
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-02 09:10 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-02 13:58 -0500
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-03 10:33 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-03 12:59 -0500
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-04 08:12 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-03 17:25 -0500
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-04 19:24 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Python <python@example.invalid> - 2017-05-04 11:40 +0200
                Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-04 09:41 -0500
                Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-04 19:05 +0100
                Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-04 14:03 -0500
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-05 10:09 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-05 08:30 -0500
                Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-05 21:03 +0100
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-06 08:58 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-05 21:00 +0100
                Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-05 15:20 -0500
                Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-05 23:09 +0100
                Re: non-coordinate basis Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2017-05-05 15:59 -0700
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-06 09:10 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-06 08:01 +0100
                Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-06 06:01 -0500
                Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-06 06:02 -0500
                Re: non-coordinate basis RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-11 11:02 -0700
                Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-11 19:58 +0100
                Re: non-coordinate basis Jean-Pierre Framboise <nctede@pmdcehr.cc> - 2017-05-11 19:25 +0000
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-12 11:31 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis pnalsing@gmail.com - 2017-05-11 18:56 -0700
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-13 07:50 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-12 16:56 -0500
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-13 09:47 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-13 11:29 +0100
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-14 07:43 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-13 02:39 -0700
                Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-13 11:32 +0100
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-14 07:48 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-14 00:13 +0100
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-16 19:51 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis 01405 <0140519@gmail.com> - 2017-05-16 05:34 -0700
                Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-16 10:30 -0500
                Re: non-coordinate basis pnalsing@gmail.com - 2017-05-12 20:39 -0700
                Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-13 11:32 +0100
                Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-13 11:33 +0100
                Re: non-coordinate basis "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-04-26 15:23 +0200
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-27 09:50 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-04-27 13:44 +0200
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-28 18:32 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-04-19 15:30 +0000
                Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-16 13:27 +0100
                Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-13 09:07 -0500
                Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-13 21:22 +0100
                Re: non-coordinate basis Heki Entouba <buububu@enou3eh.ac> - 2017-04-13 20:34 +0000
                Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-14 10:42 +0100
                Re: non-coordinate basis Wendi Maddox <ox@awdodww.oe> - 2017-04-14 14:34 +0000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-04-14 12:53 +0200
                Re: non-coordinate basis Wendi Maddox <ox@awdodww.oe> - 2017-04-14 14:39 +0000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-04-14 17:06 +0200
                Re: non-coordinate basis Wendi Maddox <ox@awdodww.oe> - 2017-04-14 15:28 +0000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Wendi Maddox <ox@awdodww.oe> - 2017-04-14 15:31 +0000
                Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-14 20:56 +0100
                Re: non-coordinate basis Wendi Maddox <ox@awdodww.oe> - 2017-04-14 23:26 +0000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-04-14 12:47 +0200
                Re: non-coordinate basis mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-14 03:55 -0700
                Re: non-coordinate basis Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-04-20 10:38 -0500
                Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-20 10:57 -0500
                Re: non-coordinate basis Loma Bibee <miube@oeeele.ei> - 2017-04-20 17:08 +0000
                "How nature works" vs model making Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-04-26 21:58 -0500
                Re: "How nature works" vs model making mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-26 22:48 -0700
                Re: "How nature works" vs model making "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-28 14:18 +0100
                Re: "How nature works" vs model making mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-28 06:40 -0700
                Re: "How nature works" vs model making "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-28 20:49 +0100
                Re: "How nature works" vs model making mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-28 14:55 -0700
                Re: "How nature works" vs model making "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-29 21:42 +0100
                Re: "How nature works" vs model making "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-27 20:28 +0100
                Re: "How nature works" vs model making Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-29 09:59 -0500
                Re: non-coordinate basis Loma Bibee <miube@oeeele.ei> - 2017-04-20 17:07 +0000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-04-20 14:01 -0500
                Re: non-coordinate basis Loma Bibee <miube@oeeele.ei> - 2017-04-20 19:25 +0000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-04-20 20:01 +0200
                Re: non-coordinate basis Loma Bibee <miube@oeeele.ei> - 2017-04-20 18:07 +0000
                Re: non-coordinate basis mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-20 14:09 -0700
                Re: non-coordinate basis RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-21 14:14 -0700
                Re: non-coordinate basis Ubet Hitaosi <suetsu@tooube.ic> - 2017-04-21 21:39 +0000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-04-21 23:43 +0200
                Re: non-coordinate basis Ubet Hitaosi <suetsu@tooube.ic> - 2017-04-21 22:03 +0000
                Re: non-coordinate basis mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-22 01:08 -0700
                Re: non-coordinate basis RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-24 15:42 -0700
          Re: non-coordinate basis Lofty Goat <rlwatkins@gmail.com> - 2017-04-09 18:37 -0500
            Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-10 11:35 +1000
              Re: non-coordinate basis Lofty Goat <rlwatkins@gmail.com> - 2017-04-10 20:30 -0500
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-12 07:38 +1000
        Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-05 08:33 -0500
          Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-06 09:21 +1000
            Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-05 18:45 -0500
              Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-07 05:52 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-06 15:06 -0500
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-07 06:21 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-06 15:33 -0500
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-07 09:05 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-07 07:27 -0500
                Re: non-coordinate basis Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-07 06:32 -0700
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-08 09:06 +1000
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                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-09 09:17 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-08 20:19 -0700
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-10 11:37 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-08 09:09 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-07 18:12 -0500
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-08 10:13 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-07 19:44 -0500
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-09 09:23 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Python <python@example.invalid> - 2017-04-09 01:35 +0200
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-09 11:04 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-09 13:39 -0500
                Re: non-coordinate basis Kimberli Mafalda Rotenberry <uetbbe@werrirroeb.ie> - 2017-04-09 19:19 +0000
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-10 11:39 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-10 08:09 -0500
                Re: non-coordinate basis Jolie Osokuro <uuol@oowo.ou> - 2017-04-10 17:03 +0000
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-11 08:55 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Jolie Osokuro <uuol@oowo.ou> - 2017-04-11 11:23 +0000
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-12 07:41 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-10 11:46 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-10 08:11 -0500
                Re: non-coordinate basis mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-10 06:18 -0700
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-11 09:03 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-11 07:59 -0500
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-12 08:06 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-11 15:41 -0700
                Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-11 17:45 -0500
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-13 08:40 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-13 09:00 -0500
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-14 09:41 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Python <python@example.invalid> - 2017-04-14 01:45 +0200
                Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-14 08:30 -0500
                Re: non-coordinate basis moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-04-14 16:19 +0000
                Re: non-coordinate basis dancouriann@gmail.com - 2017-04-14 12:14 -0700
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-17 11:08 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-04-17 12:36 +0000
                Re: non-coordinate basis dancouriann@gmail.com - 2017-04-17 07:27 -0700
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-18 09:13 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis dancouriann@gmail.com - 2017-04-17 18:53 -0700
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-19 15:38 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-17 10:44 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-04-17 12:31 +0000
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-18 09:16 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-04-18 01:30 +0000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Nocasto Aboyar <oocaao@syeoby.ao> - 2017-04-18 14:33 +0000
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-19 15:42 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-04-12 12:36 -0500
                Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-12 17:15 -0500
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-13 08:50 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-04-12 21:44 -0500
                Re: non-coordinate basis pnalsing@gmail.com - 2017-04-12 20:16 -0700
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-14 09:50 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis pnalsing@gmail.com - 2017-04-13 17:20 -0700
                Re: non-coordinate basis pnalsing@gmail.com - 2017-04-13 17:28 -0700
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-17 11:11 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis pnalsing@gmail.com - 2017-04-16 18:24 -0700
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-18 09:19 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-04-18 01:34 +0000
                Re: non-coordinate basis pnalsing@gmail.com - 2017-04-17 20:14 -0700
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-19 15:48 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-19 09:22 +0100
                Re: non-coordinate basis moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-04-19 15:35 +0000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2017-04-19 13:58 -0700
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-20 08:19 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-20 11:09 +0100
                Re: non-coordinate basis Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-20 06:06 -0700
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-21 09:44 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-04-20 10:43 -0500
                Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-20 21:28 +0100
                Re: non-coordinate basis physics.interuptus@gmail.com - 2017-04-20 14:00 -0700
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-21 09:48 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-14 09:45 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-09 13:33 -0500
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-10 11:50 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-10 08:12 -0500
                Re: non-coordinate basis dancouriann@gmail.com - 2017-04-10 08:42 -0700
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-11 09:07 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-10 17:18 -0700
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-11 10:54 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-10 18:36 -0700
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-12 08:09 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-11 15:44 -0700
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-12 10:36 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-12 04:21 -0700
                Re: non-coordinate basis mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-12 04:56 -0700
                Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-12 21:37 +0100
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-13 08:58 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-04-13 08:58 +0200
                Re: non-coordinate basis mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-13 00:35 -0700
                Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-13 09:40 +0100
                Re: non-coordinate basis Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-04-13 15:27 +0200
                Re: non-coordinate basis mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-13 06:32 -0700
                Re: non-coordinate basis mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-13 09:12 -0700
                Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-13 20:59 +0100
                Re: non-coordinate basis Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-04-14 12:06 +0200
                Re: non-coordinate basis Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-04-14 13:06 +0200
                Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-14 20:57 +0100
                Re: non-coordinate basis Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-04-14 23:12 +0200
                Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-15 11:36 +0100
                Re: non-coordinate basis Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-04-15 13:33 +0200
                Re: non-coordinate basis Wendi Maddox <ox@awdodww.oe> - 2017-04-15 12:10 +0000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-04-15 14:14 +0200
                Re: non-coordinate basis Iwakitok Yuu <yauuu@ikwuo.wk> - 2017-04-15 12:58 +0000
                Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-15 21:22 +0100
                Re: non-coordinate basis Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-04-16 08:17 +0200
                Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-16 13:48 +0100
                Re: non-coordinate basis Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-04-17 08:18 +0200
                Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-17 10:10 +0100
                Re: non-coordinate basis Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-04-18 00:10 +0200
                Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-18 21:41 +0100
                Re: non-coordinate basis Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-04-18 23:40 +0200
                Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-19 09:30 +0100
                Re: non-coordinate basis Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-04-19 10:33 +0200
                Re: non-coordinate basis Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-04-16 10:59 +0200
                Re: non-coordinate basis mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-16 02:35 -0700
                Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-16 14:39 +0100
                Re: non-coordinate basis Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-04-17 08:41 +0200
                Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-17 10:14 +0100
                Re: non-coordinate basis Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-17 05:55 -0700
                Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-17 16:13 +0100
                Re: non-coordinate basis Nocasto Aboyar <oocaao@syeoby.ao> - 2017-04-17 15:16 +0000
                Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-17 16:49 +0100
                Re: non-coordinate basis Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-18 06:25 -0700
                Re: non-coordinate basis Nocasto Aboyar <oocaao@syeoby.ao> - 2017-04-18 14:25 +0000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-04-18 17:06 +0200
                Re: non-coordinate basis Nocasto Aboyar <oocaao@syeoby.ao> - 2017-04-18 15:24 +0000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-04-18 17:57 +0200
                Re: non-coordinate basis Nocasto Aboyar <oocaao@syeoby.ao> - 2017-04-18 18:13 +0000
                Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-18 21:50 +0100
                Re: non-coordinate basis Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-19 04:20 -0700
                Re: non-coordinate basis Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-04-18 00:14 +0200
                Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-18 21:55 +0100
                Re: non-coordinate basis Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-04-18 23:37 +0200
                Re: non-coordinate basis Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-04-19 00:55 +0200
                Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-19 09:20 +0100
                Re: non-coordinate basis Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-04-19 10:31 +0200
                Re: non-coordinate basis Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-04-19 22:02 +0200
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-20 08:24 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis pnalsing@gmail.com - 2017-04-19 17:56 -0700
                Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-20 11:09 +0100
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-21 10:01 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-20 17:32 -0700
                Re: non-coordinate basis Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-04-21 10:43 -0500
                Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-21 11:13 -0500
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-22 19:30 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-22 14:19 -0500
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-23 09:47 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-24 09:30 -0500
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-25 09:07 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-25 01:43 +0000
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-26 09:24 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-26 22:02 +0000
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-27 09:26 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-04-26 22:22 -0500
                Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-27 20:21 +0100
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-28 18:27 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-29 09:41 -0500
                Re: non-coordinate basis Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-04-29 10:46 -0500
                Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-29 13:16 -0500
                Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-29 21:49 +0100
                Re: non-coordinate basis Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-04-29 22:58 -0500
                Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-30 10:23 +0100
                Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-01 08:37 +0100
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-01 20:08 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-01 17:45 +0100
                Re: non-coordinate basis Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-05-01 13:29 -0500
                Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-01 21:31 +0100
                Re: non-coordinate basis mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-01 23:09 -0700
                Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-02 19:42 +0100
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-02 10:23 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-02 19:47 +0100
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-03 10:42 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-02 20:38 -0700
                Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-03 07:49 +0100
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-03 18:58 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-06 17:43 +0100
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-07 10:48 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-07 10:25 +0100
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-09 19:37 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-10 21:17 +0100
                Re: non-coordinate basis Jean-Pierre Framboise <nctede@pmdcehr.cc> - 2017-05-10 20:44 +0000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-05-06 08:59 -0500
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-07 10:51 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-05-07 11:47 -0500
                Re: non-coordinate basis mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-07 00:40 -0700
                Re: non-coordinate basis Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2017-05-07 03:17 -0700
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-08 10:48 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-02 13:56 -0500
                Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-06 17:43 +0100
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-07 10:56 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-07 10:22 +0100
                Re: non-coordinate basis Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-05-07 12:09 -0500
                Re: non-coordinate basis Bordamos Alamidade <dd@dsmdawo.ab> - 2017-05-07 17:43 +0000
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-08 11:00 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis pnalsing@gmail.com - 2017-05-07 21:03 -0700
                Re: non-coordinate basis moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-08 12:13 +0000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-08 06:14 -0700
                Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-08 08:23 -0500
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-09 19:41 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Lissa Hermes <isussui@aeawwih.es> - 2017-05-09 11:14 +0000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-09 04:28 -0700
                Re: non-coordinate basis "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-05-08 09:40 +0200
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-09 19:48 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-09 16:56 +0000
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-10 17:59 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-05-10 10:08 +0200
                Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-10 07:39 -0500
                Re: non-coordinate basis moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-10 17:50 +0000
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-11 10:23 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-12 02:47 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-11 11:23 -0700
                Re: non-coordinate basis "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-05-13 10:23 +0200
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW, DSc." <HG@....> - 2017-05-13 19:43 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-05-10 20:50 +0200
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-11 10:26 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis pnalsing@gmail.com - 2017-05-10 18:12 -0700
                Re: non-coordinate basis "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-05-11 10:56 +0200
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-12 02:46 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-05-13 20:02 +0200
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-14 07:55 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-05-14 10:29 +0200
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW, DSc." <HG@....> - 2017-05-14 20:16 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-05-15 13:42 +0200
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-16 20:06 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-16 10:31 -0500
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-17 08:24 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-17 02:38 +0000
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW, DSc." <HG@....> - 2017-05-17 22:28 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-17 10:51 -0500
                Re: non-coordinate basis "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-05-18 17:39 +0200
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-19 09:48 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-05-17 11:16 +0200
                Re: non-coordinate basis Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-17 04:05 -0700
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW, DSc." <HG@....> - 2017-05-17 21:19 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-17 05:26 -0700
                Re: non-coordinate basis mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-17 05:56 -0700
                Re: non-coordinate basis "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-05-17 11:17 +0200
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW, DSc." <HG@....> - 2017-05-17 22:08 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-05-17 11:03 +0200
                Re: non-coordinate basis mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-01 23:00 -0700
                Re: non-coordinate basis JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-05-01 14:07 -0700
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-02 09:38 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-02 19:37 +0100
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-03 10:49 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-03 08:02 +0100
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-03 19:01 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Himère Bezuinig <numunenen@wgngiweig.mc> - 2017-04-30 11:28 +0000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-04-30 16:04 -0500
                Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-01 07:52 -0500
                Re: non-coordinate basis RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-01 13:48 -0700
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-02 09:41 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-02 19:36 +0100
                Re: non-coordinate basis Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-04-29 10:33 -0500
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-01 10:02 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-30 20:20 -0700
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-01 20:21 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-01 04:42 -0700
                Re: non-coordinate basis Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-05-01 14:04 -0500
                Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-01 20:57 +0100
                Re: non-coordinate basis Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-05-02 19:36 -0500
                Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-03 08:32 +0100
                Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-03 18:20 +0100
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-04 08:10 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-04 19:10 +0100
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-02 10:18 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-01 21:10 -0700
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-03 10:51 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-05-02 19:52 -0500
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-03 19:12 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-03 04:16 -0700
                Re: non-coordinate basis Ukabaru Hongetsu <uohio@ugutua.ic> - 2017-05-03 15:36 +0000
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-03 19:16 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Ukabaru Hongetsu <uohio@ugutua.ic> - 2017-05-03 15:43 +0000
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-04 08:18 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-03 17:24 -0500
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-04 19:22 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-04 04:30 -0700
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-05 10:41 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-04 19:14 -0700
                Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-04 09:39 -0500
                Re: non-coordinate basis Ukabaru Hongetsu <uohio@ugutua.ic> - 2017-05-03 15:29 +0000
                Re: non-coordinate basis JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-05-01 14:09 -0700
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-02 10:19 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-04-26 22:07 -0500
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-28 18:30 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-28 01:39 -0700
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-29 08:52 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-28 16:11 -0700
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-01 20:31 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-01 07:48 -0500
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-02 10:27 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis pnalsing@gmail.com - 2017-05-01 17:54 -0700
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-03 10:56 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-02 13:54 -0500
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-03 10:54 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-03 12:55 -0500
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-04 08:14 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-03 17:23 -0500
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-04 19:13 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-04 09:38 -0500
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-05 10:39 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-05 08:27 -0500
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-06 09:11 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-06 06:00 -0500
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-07 10:57 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-07 13:17 -0500
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-05-09 19:08 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-09 07:45 -0500
                Re: non-coordinate basis mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-09 09:47 -0700
                Re: non-coordinate basis pnalsing@gmail.com - 2017-05-09 08:45 -0700
                Re: non-coordinate basis Ubet Hitaosi <suetsu@tooube.ic> - 2017-04-21 17:53 +0000
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-22 19:22 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-22 19:28 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis 01405 <0140519@gmail.com> - 2017-04-22 11:31 -0700
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-23 09:49 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis 01405 <0140519@gmail.com> - 2017-04-22 17:13 -0700
                Re: non-coordinate basis Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-04-23 10:55 +0200
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-24 08:48 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis 01405 <0140519@gmail.com> - 2017-04-24 00:19 -0700
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-24 18:34 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-04-26 22:25 -0500
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-28 18:17 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-24 09:32 -0500
                Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-24 09:31 -0500
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-25 09:09 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-25 01:43 +0000
                Re: non-coordinate basis "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-04-26 09:26 +1000
                Re: non-coordinate basis Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-26 22:02 +0000
                Re: non-coordinate basis mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-18 23:02 -0700
                Re: non-coordinate basis Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-04-16 11:13 +0200
                Re: non-coordinate basis "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-04-16 13:49 +0100
                Re: non-coordinate basis Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-04-17 08:49 +0200
                Re: non-coordinate basis Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-04-16 11:24 -0500

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