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Re: Speed of light in vacuum, what definition?

From Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com>
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Subject Re: Speed of light in vacuum, what definition?
Date 2017-04-03 08:02 +0200
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Dne 03/04/2017 v 04:10 Eckard B napsal(a):
> Am Sonntag, 2. April 2017 20:19:05 UTC+2 schrieb Gary Harnagel:
> 
>>> Constant c means, the quotient I defined is always the same.
> 
> 
>>> Someone mentioned Galilean relativity. I cannot imagine that Galileo
>>> used these terms.
>>
>> Maybe not, but they were implicit in what he did.
> 
> No. Coordinate systems are arbitrarily chosen manmade constructs.

Everything in all scientific models of reality
is arbitrarily chosen manmade constructs.
Including all names for what we see, observe, do or use.

>  
>>> If A and B move relative to each other with c, then the initial and the
>>> end distances are "located" at infinity.
>>
>> Not necessarily.  A could start at x = 0 and have negative velocity while
>> B starts at x = 1 and has positive velocity.
> 
> Eternal constant velocity means no sudden start and no sudden stop. 

Who says eternal and infinity ?
Photons move by speed c while they exist.
They need not even abandon the atom where they were created.
>  
>>> What was much later called Galilean transformation belongs to bodies, not
>>> to waves. I wonder why Einstein called his paper "On Electrodynamics of
>>> Moving Bodies" while he actually dealt with electromagnetic waves.      
>>
>> Either you haven't read it or you didn't understand what you read.
> 
> I understood that Einstein equated bodies with coordinate systems.
> What mistake! 

To have a coordinate system,
you need some bodies, dont you ?
You do not have problems with SR,
but rather with physics and metrology.

> Let common sense falsify this unfounded Einsteinean idea. 
> A and B may move along a straight line in opposite direction 
> while C remains in the middle. Then let A and B return to C
> and compare their clocks. 

Let exchange the time info while moving.

Let only one is moving, returning back.

Let exchange the time info of Earth and satellite clocks.
While all satellite clocks are in gravityless state,
time of the low orbits clocks observed from Earth is slowed down,
while time of the low orbits clocks observed from Earth is speeded up.

GR can very correctly predict the observed time rate shifts.
Alternatives struggle to reason why this happens,
not speaking about quantitative evaluation.

-- 
Poutnik ( The Pilgrim, Der Wanderer )

A wise man guards words he says,
as they say about him more,
than he says about the subject.

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        Re: Speed of light in vacuum, what definition? Eckard B <eckard.blumschein@arcor.de> - 2017-03-01 10:09 -0800
          Re: Speed of light in vacuum, what definition? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-03-01 21:19 +0100
            Re: Speed of light in vacuum, what definition? Eckard B <eckard.blumschein@arcor.de> - 2017-03-01 23:01 -0800
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