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Re: Fixed IP addreses on network.

From William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.networking
Subject Re: Fixed IP addreses on network.
Date 2017-04-03 00:07 +0000
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On 2017-04-02, Jerry Peters <jerry@example.invalid> wrote:
> Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> wrote:
>> Le 01/04/2017 à 12:50, Carlos E. R. a écrit :
>>> On 2017-04-01 09:41, Pascal Hambourg wrote:
>>>> Le 01/04/2017 à 02:01, Carlos E. R. a écrit :
>>>>>
>>>>> "The classic naming scheme for network interfaces applied by the kernel
>>>>> is to simply assign names beginning with "eth0", "eth1", ... to all
>>>>> interfaces as they are probed by the drivers. As the driver probing is
>>>>> generally not predictable for modern technology
>>>>
>>>> "Modern technology" actually standing for "systemd/udev".
>>>
>>> No, it means the kernel.
>> 
>> No, the kernel behaviour has not changed in this matter.
>> 
>>>> Actually the problem comes from the asynchronous way "modern technology"
>>>> probes hardware and loads drivers.
>>>
>>> Yes, in the kernel.
>> 
>> No, the kernel is not responsible for loading modules asynchronously. 
>> Udev is.
>> 
>>>> I beg to differ. I have perfectly stable kernel-defined interface names
>>>> on a machine *not* running udev.
>>>
>>> Chance. Or old kernel.
>> 
>> Chance has nothing to do with this.
>> Rather old kernel (3.2.x), but a newer one would behave exactly the same.
>
> And does, I'm using 4.10.6 on at least one machine and getting *eth0*
> as the net device name. Salix (Slackware) 14.1 so no systemd. 
> Fortunately Pat hasn't bought into the systemd insanity for slack.

On mageia cauldron during the boot sequence I get the line
ath10k_pci 0000:3a:00.0 wlp58s0: renamed from wlan0
so the kernel names it wlan0, and ath10k_pci module then renames it.
Is the module part of the kernel?

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Fixed IP addreses on network. Doug  Laidlaw  <laidlaws@hotkey.net.au> - 2017-03-30 03:23 +1100
  Re: Fixed IP addreses on network. Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2017-03-29 20:57 +0200
    Re: Fixed IP addreses on network. Doug Laidlaw <laidlaws@hotkey.net.au> - 2017-03-30 06:20 +1100
  Re: Fixed IP addreses on network. William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2017-03-29 21:01 +0000
    Re: Fixed IP addreses on network. Doug Laidlaw <laidlaws@hotkey.net.au> - 2017-03-30 23:32 +1100
      Re: Fixed IP addreses on network. Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2017-03-30 20:28 +0200
      Re: Fixed IP addreses on network. Gordon <Gordon@clear.net.nz> - 2017-03-31 05:23 +0000
  Re: Fixed IP addreses on network. robert.wolfe@wildcat.uuhec.net (Robert Wolfe) - 2017-03-30 13:27 +0000
  Re: Fixed IP addreses on network. robert.wolfe@wildcat.uuhec.net (Robert Wolfe) - 2017-03-30 13:28 +0000
    Re: Fixed IP addreses on network. Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2017-03-30 20:34 +0200
      Re: Fixed IP addreses on network. Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2017-03-30 20:20 +0100
        Re: Fixed IP addreses on network. Gordon <Gordon@clear.net.nz> - 2017-03-31 05:44 +0000
      Re: Fixed IP addreses on network. "Jonathan N. Little" <lws4art@gmail.com> - 2017-03-30 16:56 -0400
        Re: Fixed IP addreses on network. Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2017-03-31 00:18 +0200
          Re: Fixed IP addreses on network. "Jonathan N. Little" <lws4art@gmail.com> - 2017-03-30 18:52 -0400
            Re: Fixed IP addreses on network. Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2017-03-31 19:38 +0200
  Re: Fixed IP addreses on network. ray carter <ray@zianet.com> - 2017-03-30 14:04 +0000
  Re: Fixed IP addreses on network. "Jonathan N. Little" <lws4art@gmail.com> - 2017-03-30 12:33 -0400
    Re: Fixed IP addreses on network. "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2017-03-31 01:59 +0200
      Re: Fixed IP addreses on network. "Jonathan N. Little" <lws4art@gmail.com> - 2017-03-30 23:10 -0400
        Re: Fixed IP addreses on network. Gordon <Gordon@clear.net.nz> - 2017-03-31 05:34 +0000
          Re: Fixed IP addreses on network. "Jonathan N. Little" <lws4art@gmail.com> - 2017-03-31 08:43 -0400
          Re: Fixed IP addreses on network. Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2017-03-31 14:10 +0000
            Re: Fixed IP addreses on network. "Jonathan N. Little" <lws4art@gmail.com> - 2017-03-31 11:02 -0400
            Re: Fixed IP addreses on network. Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2017-03-31 19:45 +0200
        Re: Fixed IP addreses on network. "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2017-04-01 02:01 +0200
          Re: Fixed IP addreses on network. Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2017-04-01 09:41 +0200
            Re: Fixed IP addreses on network. "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2017-04-01 12:50 +0200
              Re: Fixed IP addreses on network. Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2017-04-02 00:17 +0200
                Re: Fixed IP addreses on network. "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2017-04-02 01:22 +0200
                Re: Fixed IP addreses on network. Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2017-04-02 11:41 +0200
                Re: Fixed IP addreses on network. Jerry Peters <jerry@example.invalid> - 2017-04-02 20:00 +0000
                Re: Fixed IP addreses on network. Jerry Peters <jerry@example.invalid> - 2017-04-02 19:57 +0000
                Re: Fixed IP addreses on network. William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2017-04-03 00:07 +0000
                Re: Fixed IP addreses on network. Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2017-04-06 23:58 +0200
  Re: Fixed IP addreses on network. John Carter <me@mymailsvr.org> - 2017-03-31 04:51 +0000
  Re: Fixed IP addreses on network. Dave <noone$$@llondel.org> - 2017-04-02 14:39 -0700

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