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Re: Arrogance is ugly.

From moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Newsgroups sci.physics
Subject Re: Arrogance is ugly.
Date 2017-03-18 16:33 +0000
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john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:

>Is that your idea of
>"no internal structure ",
>Odd, MM, ed?
>(although, unlike a cloud, a fountain maintains
>a form)

No, a fountain is more like an external structure of water drops.
The pattern of a fountain does not depend on the shape of the drops.
Similarly, an electron orbital can be thought of as an external pattern
of the electron probability function. It does not depend on the electron's
structure, nor does it need the electron to even have a structure.

Relf is right, you need to acknowledge experimental evidence. Remember
what Richard Feynman wrote:

"It doesn't matter how beautiful your theory is, it doesn't matter how 
smart you are. If it doesn't agree with experiment, it's wrong."

BTW, shooting electrons at electrons isn't like "shooting cannon balls
at a cloud".  Shooting electrons at protons is MUCH less like shooting
cannon balls at a cloud.

Shooting relatively low energy particles at a fountain may be an apt
description of one possible way to measure the probability distribution
of an electron in an orbital, however.

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Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-04 07:17 -0800
  Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-03-04 17:12 +0000
    Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-03-04 19:33 +0100
      Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-03-04 20:45 +0000
  Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-03-04 12:31 -0600
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    Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-03-04 18:23 -0500
    Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-07 04:40 -0800
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      Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-03-07 07:14 -0600
        Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-07 05:53 -0800
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          Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-03-07 11:44 -0600
  Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2017-03-04 12:53 -0800
    Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-03-06 17:09 -0800
  Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate S Ergio <invlid@invalid.com> - 2017-03-07 06:59 -0600
    Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-07 05:59 -0800
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        Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2017-03-07 11:01 -0800
      Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-03-07 16:31 +0000
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  Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2017-03-07 09:39 -0800
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  Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate S Ergio <invlid@invalid.com> - 2017-03-07 11:59 -0600
    Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-07 10:28 -0800
      Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate S Ergio <invlid@invalid.com> - 2017-03-07 12:49 -0600
      Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-03-07 13:09 -0600
      Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-03-08 03:19 +0000
        Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-08 05:47 -0800
          Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-03-08 06:53 -0800
          Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-03-08 09:50 -0600
          Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-03-08 17:17 +0000
          Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate edprochak@gmail.com - 2017-03-08 11:45 -0800
            Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-03-08 14:20 -0600
              subjectum editen arbyz14u@gmail.com - 2017-03-08 12:34 -0800
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                or, maybe, (1/2)^(1/2)^(1/2)^(1/2) john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-10 06:14 -0800
                Re: or, maybe, (1/2)^(1/2)^(1/2)^(1/2) Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-03-10 15:26 +0100
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                Re: or, maybe, (1/2)^(1/2)^(1/2)^(1/2) john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-10 07:18 -0800
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                Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate edprochak@gmail.com - 2017-03-16 19:04 -0700
                Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-03-17 04:04 +0000
                Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-03-16 12:30 -0700
                Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-16 12:49 -0700
                Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-03-16 12:57 -0700
                Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-03-16 18:34 -0400
                Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-03-16 19:06 -0400
                Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-03-16 18:29 -0400
                Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-03-16 18:19 -0700
                Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-03-16 23:13 -0400
                Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-03-16 20:54 -0700
                Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-03-17 05:35 -0700
                Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-03-18 17:14 -0400
                Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-03-18 16:10 -0700
                Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-03-18 20:35 -0400
                Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-03-19 05:02 -0700
                Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-19 05:23 -0700
                Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-03-19 05:35 -0700
                Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-19 05:46 -0700
                Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-03-19 07:30 -0700
                Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-19 07:40 -0700
                Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-03-19 07:48 -0700
                Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-19 07:50 -0700
                Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-03-19 08:40 -0700
                Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2017-03-20 00:29 -0400
                Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2017-03-20 00:53 -0400
                Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-03-20 04:42 -0700
                Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2017-03-20 20:21 -0400
                Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-03-21 07:27 -0700
                Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-21 07:34 -0700
                Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-03-21 08:22 -0700
                Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-21 08:46 -0700
                Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-03-21 17:23 -0400
                Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-03-21 17:16 -0400
                Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-03-21 17:16 -0400
                Re: Order in Nature. Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2017-03-21 14:32 -0700
                Re: The "church steeple" is a campus building. Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-03-21 16:20 -0700
                Re: Princeton's 5 octave carillon ( 35 bells, in a Gothic tower ). Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2017-03-23 12:59 -0700
                Re: The "church steeple" is a campus building. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-03-21 19:32 -0400
                Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate edprochak@gmail.com - 2017-03-16 18:52 -0700
                Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-03-17 07:25 -0500
                Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-03-17 03:53 +0000
                Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-03-16 18:19 -0400
                Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-03-17 03:51 +0000
                Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate edprochak@gmail.com - 2017-03-16 18:35 -0700
                Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-03-17 03:47 +0000
                Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-03-16 08:49 -0500
                Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-03-16 07:42 -0700
                Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-03-17 03:43 +0000
                Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-03-15 12:04 -0500
                Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-03-16 11:00 -0700
                Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-16 11:06 -0700
                Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-03-16 13:32 -0500
                Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-03-16 18:26 -0400
                Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate edprochak@gmail.com - 2017-03-16 19:16 -0700
                Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-17 02:20 -0700
                Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-03-17 03:40 +0000
                Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-03-14 23:25 -0700
                Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate edprochak@gmail.com - 2017-03-15 09:35 -0700
                Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-03-14 19:03 -0400
                Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-03-14 23:23 +0000
                Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-03-14 20:52 -0400
                Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-14 18:03 -0700
              Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-03-12 07:53 -0700
  Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-03-16 11:18 -0500
    Re: Another insanity- That electrons don't radiate moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-03-17 04:01 +0000

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