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| From | J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> |
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| Newsgroups | rec.arts.sf.written, rec.arts.sf.composition |
| Subject | Re: The Most Influential Sci-Fi Books Of All Time |
| Message-ID | <oadnmgh4vtqqgiqlbjj2m5gsplct0ge3do@4ax.com> (permalink) |
| References | (1 earlier) <skcnib$6ir$1@dont-email.me> <20211016a@crcomp.net> <slrnsmm63l.10nr.naddy@lorvorc.mips.inka.de> <robertaw-78CA28.22003116102021@news.individual.net> <skgbfg$ma5$1@dont-email.me> |
| Organization | Forte - www.forteinc.com |
| Date | 2021-10-17 02:07 -0400 |
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On Sat, 16 Oct 2021 22:14:28 -0700, Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote: >On 10/16/2021 10:00 PM, Robert Woodward wrote: >> In article <slrnsmm63l.10nr.naddy@lorvorc.mips.inka.de>, >> Christian Weisgerber <naddy@mips.inka.de> wrote: >> >>> On 2021-10-16, Don <g@crcomp.net> wrote: >>> >>>> Popularity's probably positively correlated to influence. And >>>> _Perry Rhodan_ is the most popular science fiction ever, with over two >>>> billion novellas sold. Bubonicon's a takeoff on a PR character named >>>> Gucky/Pucky. PR's matter transmitter's appeared years before Star Trek's >>>> transporters. PR's spherical space ships debuted decades before Star >>>> Wars' Death Star. >>> >>> I think PR's influence on Anglo-American SF is approximately zero. >>> And a good rule of thumb is that _nothing_ in PR is original. It's >>> all been seen before. (Which does not preclude independent >>> reinvention.) >>> >>> _The Encyclopedia of Science Fiction_ traces matter transmission >>> to the 19th century. >>> >>> I vaguely remember von Däniken explaining that a sphere is the >>> logical shape for a space-ship. That idea must have been around >>> for a long time. (And is completely irrelevant at the level of >>> magic technology in PR.) >> >> The warships in various H. Beam Piper's stories (_Space Viking_ as well >> as stories set in the Federation era and in the Empire Era) were >> spherical. For that matter, IIRC, the title spaceship in _Skylark of >> Valeron_ was also spherical. >> >IIRC spheres give the most volume with the least surface area. Cavor's space ship in Wells' 1901 "The First Men in the Moon" is spherical. The Chapter 3 title is "The Building of the Sphere". I'm fairly sure that some of Doc Smith's space ships were spherical. With regard to teleportation, google "Kefitzat Haderech", which I believe predates Christianity. There's also Wagner's Tarnhelm. If you need something explicitly science-fictional try "The Man Without a Body" from 1877. Or Clarke's first published story, "Travel by Wire!" from 1937. Or for something well known that predates Perry Rhodan, try Heinlein's 1955 "Tunnel in the Sky". It also appeared in several movies starting in 1939, including the 1953 Merrie Melodies "Duck Dodgers", and 1958's "The Fly".
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The Most Influential Sci-Fi Books Of All Time Tony Nance <tonynance17@gmail.com> - 2021-10-14 08:48 -0700
Re: The Most Influential Sci-Fi Books Of All Time Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2021-10-14 09:17 -0700
Re: The Most Influential Sci-Fi Books Of All Time Robert Woodward <robertaw@drizzle.com> - 2021-10-14 10:10 -0700
Re: The Most Influential Sci-Fi Books Of All Time Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2021-10-14 10:59 -0700
Re: The Most Influential Sci-Fi Books Of All Time Jack Bohn <jack.bohn64@gmail.com> - 2021-10-15 09:33 -0700
Re: The Most Influential Sci-Fi Books Of All Time Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2021-10-15 10:25 -0700
Re: The Most Influential Sci-Fi Books Of All Time The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> - 2021-10-15 22:51 -0700
Re: The Most Influential Sci-Fi Books Of All Time Paul S Person <psperson1@ix.netcom.invalid> - 2021-10-16 09:13 -0700
Re: The Most Influential Sci-Fi Books Of All Time ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2021-10-16 18:01 +0000
Re: The Most Influential Sci-Fi Books Of All Time "peterwezeman@hotmail.com" <peterwezeman@hotmail.com> - 2021-10-16 11:56 -0700
Re: The Most Influential Sci-Fi Books Of All Time Paul S Person <psperson1@ix.netcom.invalid> - 2021-10-17 09:26 -0700
Re: The Most Influential Sci-Fi Books Of All Time Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2021-10-18 09:26 -0700
Re: The Most Influential Sci-Fi Books Of All Time ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2021-10-18 16:30 +0000
Re: The Most Influential Sci-Fi Books Of All Time Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2021-10-18 11:45 -0500
Re: The Most Influential Sci-Fi Books Of All Time J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-10-19 20:21 -0400
Re: The Most Influential Sci-Fi Books Of All Time Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2021-10-18 10:06 -0700
Re: The Most Influential Sci-Fi Books Of All Time "peterwezeman@hotmail.com" <peterwezeman@hotmail.com> - 2021-10-20 14:47 -0700
Re: The Most Influential Sci-Fi Books Of All Time Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2021-10-20 14:57 -0700
Re: The Most Influential Sci-Fi Books Of All Time Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2021-10-20 17:10 -0700
Re: The Most Influential Sci-Fi Books Of All Time Ninapenda Jibini <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2021-10-21 04:44 +0000
Re: The Most Influential Sci-Fi Books Of All Time Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2021-10-20 22:05 -0700
Re: The Most Influential Sci-Fi Books Of All Time Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2021-10-21 08:12 -0700
Re: The Most Influential Sci-Fi Books Of All Time The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> - 2021-10-21 08:55 -0700
Re: The Most Influential Sci-Fi Books Of All Time Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2021-10-21 09:00 -0700
Re: The Most Influential Sci-Fi Books Of All Time J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-10-21 13:38 -0400
Re: The Most Influential Sci-Fi Books Of All Time Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2021-10-21 13:44 -0500
Re: The Most Influential Sci-Fi Books Of All Time Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2021-10-21 13:10 -0700
Re: The Most Influential Sci-Fi Books Of All Time The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> - 2021-10-21 21:55 -0700
Re: The Most Influential Sci-Fi Books Of All Time David Johnston <davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> - 2021-10-22 13:50 -0600
Re: The Most Influential Sci-Fi Books Of All Time Moriarty <blues95@ivillage.com> - 2021-10-21 12:52 -0700
Re: The Most Influential Sci-Fi Books Of All Time The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> - 2021-10-21 21:50 -0700
Re: The Most Influential Sci-Fi Books Of All Time "peterwezeman@hotmail.com" <peterwezeman@hotmail.com> - 2021-10-20 13:56 -0700
Re: The Most Influential Sci-Fi Books Of All Time Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2021-10-20 14:29 -0700
Re: The Most Influential Sci-Fi Books Of All Time Ninapenda Jibini <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2021-10-16 18:02 +0000
Re: The Most Influential Sci-Fi Books Of All Time Paul S Person <psperson1@ix.netcom.invalid> - 2021-10-16 09:05 -0700
Re: The Most Influential Sci-Fi Books Of All Time Jack Bohn <jack.bohn64@gmail.com> - 2021-10-17 07:48 -0700
Re: The Most Influential Sci-Fi Books Of All Time Paul S Person <psperson1@ix.netcom.invalid> - 2021-10-17 09:27 -0700
Re: The Most Influential Sci-Fi Books Of All Time ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2021-10-14 18:44 +0000
Re: The Most Influential Sci-Fi Books Of All Time Tony Nance <tonynance17@gmail.com> - 2021-10-14 13:10 -0700
Re: The Most Influential Sci-Fi Books Of All Time ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2021-10-15 00:32 +0000
Re: The Most Influential Sci-Fi Books Of All Time Tony Nance <tonynance17@gmail.com> - 2021-10-15 07:02 -0700
Re: The Most Influential Sci-Fi Books Of All Time Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2021-10-15 08:34 -0700
Re: The Most Influential Sci-Fi Books Of All Time The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> - 2021-10-15 22:41 -0700
Re: The Most Influential Sci-Fi Books Of All Time Tony Nance <tonynance17@gmail.com> - 2021-10-14 10:36 -0700
Re: The Most Influential Sci-Fi Books Of All Time "peterwezeman@hotmail.com" <peterwezeman@hotmail.com> - 2021-10-14 13:40 -0700
Re: The Most Influential Sci-Fi Books Of All Time David Johnston <davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> - 2021-10-14 16:29 -0600
Re: The Most Influential Sci-Fi Books Of All Time Steve Coltrin <spcoltri@omcl.org> - 2021-10-15 08:54 -0600
Re: The Most Influential Sci-Fi Books Of All Time Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2021-10-14 17:07 -0700
Re: The Most Influential Sci-Fi Books Of All Time Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2021-10-15 08:34 -0700
Re: The Most Influential Sci-Fi Books Of All Time The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> - 2021-10-15 22:45 -0700
Re: The Most Influential Sci-Fi Books Of All Time Ninapenda Jibini <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2021-10-16 18:01 +0000
Re: The Most Influential Sci-Fi Books Of All Time Jack Bohn <jack.bohn64@gmail.com> - 2021-10-15 09:43 -0700
Re: The Most Influential Sci-Fi Books Of All Time ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2021-10-15 17:57 +0000
Re: The Most Influential Sci-Fi Books Of All Time Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2021-10-17 00:11 -0700
Re: The Most Influential Sci-Fi Books Of All Time ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2021-10-17 18:03 +0000
Re: The Most Influential Sci-Fi Books Of All Time Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2021-10-15 15:29 -0700
Re: The Most Influential Sci-Fi Books Of All Time Christian Weisgerber <naddy@mips.inka.de> - 2021-10-15 18:52 +0000
Re: The Most Influential Sci-Fi Books Of All Time Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2021-10-15 15:16 -0500
Re: The Most Influential Sci-Fi Books Of All Time djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2021-10-15 23:38 +0000
Re: The Most Influential Sci-Fi Books Of All Time Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2021-10-15 19:32 -0500
Re: The Most Influential Sci-Fi Books Of All Time Tony Nance <tonynance17@gmail.com> - 2021-10-15 18:15 -0700
Re: The Most Influential Sci-Fi Books Of All Time djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2021-10-16 02:27 +0000
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Re: The Most Influential Sci-Fi Books Of All Time Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2021-10-17 00:14 -0700
Re: The Most Influential Sci-Fi Books Of All Time Tony Nance <tonynance17@gmail.com> - 2021-10-15 18:16 -0700
Re: The Most Influential Sci-Fi Books Of All Time Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2021-10-15 21:03 -0500
Re: The Most Influential Sci-Fi Books Of All Time djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2021-10-16 02:31 +0000
Re: The Most Influential Sci-Fi Books Of All Time Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2021-10-15 22:03 -0500
Re: The Most Influential Sci-Fi Books Of All Time "Gary R. Schmidt" <grschmidt@acm.org> - 2021-10-16 14:06 +1100
Re: The Most Influential Sci-Fi Books Of All Time Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2021-10-15 23:21 -0500
Re: The Most Influential Sci-Fi Books Of All Time Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2021-10-16 08:40 -0700
Re: The Most Influential Sci-Fi Books Of All Time "Gary R. Schmidt" <grschmidt@acm.org> - 2021-10-19 13:38 +1100
Re: The Most Influential Sci-Fi Books Of All Time Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2021-10-18 22:12 -0500
Re: The Most Influential Sci-Fi Books Of All Time ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2021-10-19 03:17 +0000
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Re: The Most Influential Sci-Fi Books Of All Time ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2021-10-19 04:31 +0000
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Re: The Most Influential Sci-Fi Books Of All Time ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2021-10-16 04:25 +0000
Re: The Most Influential Sci-Fi Books Of All Time Tony Nance <tonynance17@gmail.com> - 2021-10-16 18:46 -0700
Re: The Most Influential Sci-Fi Books Of All Time Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2021-10-15 23:26 -0500
Re: The Most Influential Sci-Fi Books Of All Time David Johnston <davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> - 2021-10-15 22:45 -0600
Re: The Most Influential Sci-Fi Books Of All Time Don <g@crcomp.net> - 2021-10-16 14:43 +0000
Re: The Most Influential Sci-Fi Books Of All Time Christian Weisgerber <naddy@mips.inka.de> - 2021-10-16 18:22 +0000
Re: The Most Influential Sci-Fi Books Of All Time smw <smw@mort.smwonline.ca> - 2021-10-16 20:31 +0000
Re: The Most Influential Sci-Fi Books Of All Time Lafe <lafe@lafes.invalid> - 2021-10-18 01:02 +0000
Re: The Most Influential Sci-Fi Books Of All Time Robert Woodward <robertaw@drizzle.com> - 2021-10-16 22:00 -0700
Re: The Most Influential Sci-Fi Books Of All Time Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2021-10-16 22:14 -0700
Re: The Most Influential Sci-Fi Books Of All Time J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-10-17 02:07 -0400
Re: The Most Influential Sci-Fi Books Of All Time Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2021-10-17 00:23 -0700
Re: The Most Influential Sci-Fi Books Of All Time Jerry Brown <jerry@jwbrown.co.uk.invalid> - 2021-10-17 15:49 +0100
Re: The Most Influential Sci-Fi Books Of All Time Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2021-10-17 00:42 -0700
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