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| From | djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) |
| Subject | Re: Was C. S. Lewis the first to say that colonising other planets would be immoral if they had native inhabitants? |
| Message-ID | <oEHzn8.8wC@kithrup.com> (permalink) |
| Date | 2016-10-04 00:49 +0000 |
| References | <b1026922-f52d-4c06-8c6c-1d698ed11c71@googlegroups.com> <oEH3q3.F2K@kithrup.com> <0438e7b1-2ba4-43da-bbb5-92091ec94cbe@googlegroups.com> <nsujeo$ksm$1@dont-email.me> |
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In article <nsujeo$ksm$1@dont-email.me>, David Johnston <Davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> wrote: >On 10/3/2016 12:41 PM, Robert Carnegie wrote: >> On Monday, 3 October 2016 14:30:03 UTC+1, Dorothy J Heydt wrote: >>> In article <b1026922-f52d-4c06-8c6c-1d698ed11c71@googlegroups.com>, >>> Madawc Williams <madawcnow@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> He says this in "Out of the Silent Planet", published 1938. Two human >>>> visitors to Mars seem to intend something like the European colonisation >>>> of the rest of the world. The third, whom we are obviously supposed to >>>> agree with, condemns it. >>> >>> Well, the first example of *that* idea that I know of is Wells's >>> _The War of the Worlds._ Wells was an avowed Socialist and >>> _TWotW_ was a way of saying, "Hey, Britain, how would you feel if >>> it happened to *you*?" >> >> Hmm. Wells also favoured eugenics: I'm not sure if >> his Martians are represented as immoral, even though they >> come - in a desperate struggle to survive the death of >> their planet's ecology - as conquerors rather than guests. >> And treat the impromptu human ambassadors /very/ badly. >> But they have their own morality and they're more advanced >> than us. In the comics I think they drink our blood although >> I think I didn't find that in the book. >> > >They inject human blood into themselves in the book although that may >have been an attempt to acquire immunity to Earth diseases rather than a >habitual diet. Well, if that was it, it didn't work. -- Dorothy J. Heydt Vallejo, California djheydt at gmail dot com
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Was C. S. Lewis the first to say that colonising other planets would be immoral if they had native inhabitants? Madawc Williams <madawcnow@gmail.com> - 2016-10-03 00:58 -0700
Re: Was C. S. Lewis the first to say that colonising other planets would be immoral if they had native inhabitants? djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-10-03 13:20 +0000
Re: Was C. S. Lewis the first to say that colonising other planets would be immoral if they had native inhabitants? Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2016-10-03 11:41 -0700
Re: Was C. S. Lewis the first to say that colonising other planets would be immoral if they had native inhabitants? Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2016-10-03 15:16 -0400
Re: Was C. S. Lewis the first to say that colonising other planets would be immoral if they had native inhabitants? Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2016-10-03 15:32 -0400
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Re: Was C. S. Lewis the first to say that colonising other planets would be immoral if they had native inhabitants? Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2016-10-04 12:35 -0400
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Re: Was C. S. Lewis the first to say that colonising other planets would be immoral if they had native inhabitants? djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-10-03 20:57 +0000
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Re: Was C. S. Lewis the first to say that colonising other planets would be immoral if they had native inhabitants? djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-10-04 00:49 +0000
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Re: Was C. S. Lewis the first to say that colonising other planets would be immoral if they had native inhabitants? Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2016-10-04 01:14 -0400
Re: Was C. S. Lewis the first to say that colonising other planets would be immoral if they had native inhabitants? David Johnston <Davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> - 2016-10-04 02:58 -0600
Re: Was C. S. Lewis the first to say that colonising other planets would be immoral if they had native inhabitants? Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2016-10-04 12:38 -0400
Re: Was C. S. Lewis the first to say that colonising other planets would be immoral if they had native inhabitants? Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2016-10-04 13:52 -0700
Re: Was C. S. Lewis the first to say that colonising other planets would be immoral if they had native inhabitants? djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-10-05 00:02 +0000
Re: Was C. S. Lewis the first to say that colonising other planets would be immoral if they had native inhabitants? Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2016-10-05 00:49 -0400
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Re: Was C. S. Lewis the first to say that colonising other planets would be immoral if they had native inhabitants? Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2016-10-05 11:11 -0700
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