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Re: Any ideas on faster TLS ?

From Alex <alex@rivadpm.com>
Newsgroups comp.lang.forth
Subject Re: Any ideas on faster TLS ?
Date 2017-03-03 01:18 +0000
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On 3/1/2017 13:11, Ron Aaron wrote:
>
>
> On 03/01/2017 14:36, Anton Ertl wrote:
>> Ron Aaron <rambamist@gmail.com> writes:
>
>>> Indeed, it's only one instruction.  But it's a very expensive one.
>>
>> The best way to find out how expensive is to isolate and measure it,
>> so I did that:
>
> Yes; and when I did the rough equivalent, I found it was only a 5%
> difference so not really the problem.
>

The problem is surely the double indirection. For a "standard" variable, 
I generate

variable x  ok
: foo 10 x ! ;  ok
  ok
see foo
: foo ( ? -- ? )
\ foo is defined in (console)
\ call compiled
\ code=$41CA5E len=10 type=130
( $0 )    mov     dword { $80537C } $A  \ C7057C5380000A000000
( $A )    ret                           \ C3 ( end ) ok

whereas a TLS variable based on a register (eg EBX) (a "user" variable) 
generates (the offset of Y up the TLS is $8C)

0 user y  ok
: bar 10 y ! ;  ok
see bar
: bar ( ? -- ? )
\ bar is defined in (console)
\ call compiled
\ code=$41CAC8 len=10 type=129
( $0 )    mov     dword { $8C ebx } $A  \ C7838C0000000A000000
( $A )    ret                           \ C3 ( end ) ok

If the TLS is addressed by FS: then it would be (and this code hand 
cranked, because my Forth doesn't generate this);

code tls  ok
mov ecx { fs: $e10 } \ first TLS slot in the TEB at $E10  ok
mov { ecx $8c } $a   \ offset $8C for the TLS var  ok[1]
next;  ok
see tls
code tls ( ? -- ? )
\ tls is defined in (console)
\ call compiled
\ code=$41CA4F len=17 type=129
( $0 )    mov     ecx dword { fs: $E10 }   \ 648B0D100E0000
( $7 )    mov     dword { $8C ecx } $A     \ C7818C0000000A000000
( $11 )   ret                              \ C3 ( end ) ok

That's a lot more expensive; every reference is now twice through memory 
and with an FS segreg overide on one of the.


-- 
Alex

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Any ideas on faster TLS ? Ron Aaron <rambamist@gmail.com> - 2017-02-27 07:30 +0200
  Re: Any ideas on faster TLS ? Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-02-27 04:01 -0600
    Re: Any ideas on faster TLS ? Ron Aaron <rambamist@gmail.com> - 2017-02-27 13:19 +0200
      Re: Any ideas on faster TLS ? Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-02-27 12:56 +0000
        Re: Any ideas on faster TLS ? Ron Aaron <rambamist@gmail.com> - 2017-02-27 15:10 +0200
        Re: Any ideas on faster TLS ? albert@cherry.spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2017-02-27 17:08 +0100
      Re: Any ideas on faster TLS ? Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-02-27 08:06 -0600
        Re: Any ideas on faster TLS ? Ron Aaron <rambamist@gmail.com> - 2017-02-27 16:10 +0200
          Re: Any ideas on faster TLS ? Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-02-27 09:31 -0600
            Re: Any ideas on faster TLS ? Ron Aaron <rambamist@gmail.com> - 2017-02-28 07:05 +0200
            Re: Any ideas on faster TLS ? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2017-02-27 23:15 -0800
              Re: Any ideas on faster TLS ? Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-02-28 04:02 -0600
                Re: Any ideas on faster TLS ? Bernd Paysan <bernd@net2o.de> - 2017-03-11 19:58 +0000
      Re: Any ideas on faster TLS ? anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2017-03-01 12:36 +0000
        Re: Any ideas on faster TLS ? Ron Aaron <rambamist@gmail.com> - 2017-03-01 15:11 +0200
          Re: Any ideas on faster TLS ? Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-03-03 01:18 +0000
            Re: Any ideas on faster TLS ? anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2017-03-03 12:55 +0000
              Re: Any ideas on faster TLS ? Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-03-03 14:59 +0000
                Re: Any ideas on faster TLS ? anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2017-03-03 16:15 +0000
          Optimizing (was: Any ideas on faster TLS ?) Ron Aaron <rambamist@gmail.com> - 2017-03-17 13:14 +0200
  Re: Any ideas on faster TLS ? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-02-28 01:13 -0500
    Re: Any ideas on faster TLS ? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2017-02-27 22:48 -0800
      Re: Any ideas on faster TLS ? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-02-28 03:50 -0500

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