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Ernst wrote:

>> Or what? Sadly, you're walking a very well worn path, PI has
>> fascinated for centuries but it  won't help with compression.
>
> Look at yourself.
> Look at the complete effort.
>
>  You are upset because there is a mystery involved and for all the
> prodding the best you can do is do a witchdoctor dance predicting my
> defeat.

You misunderstand, I am not upset. Second, if math seems like magic
and witch doctoring to you I can only suggest some reading.

>  Let me make the perfectly clear.  I am interested in Pi or other
> irrationals simply for bit patterns and nothing else.  So I can use Pi
> or e or many others and I can use 2/3 and all sorts of others.
>
>  As to what it is a part of?  At this point nothing because I am just
> outlining the project.  Once I work a while on things I'll have a
> better idea of if it is wroth the effort to code or not.

Seems like this is unrelated to compression if I have it correct?

>  Here is a soft and sincere paragraph below.
>
>  Most people that frequent this forum and post have the pattern of do
> the math first and write the code second.

I can see how yo might get that idea, but I find that is not generally
true. I dare say most here have experimented with ideas without
developing a complete formal math analysis before starting. That's
hardly how it ever works. Most of the time math is brought in because
there is an existing and large body of math relevant to
compression. Many ideas have been tried and reinvented in the past and
the record exists. Awareness of that record allows the knowledgeable
to avoid wasting time on well worn dead ends. 

I mentioned this before; compression and math involve a finite number
of things and a finite number of possible operations. Given a
restricted universe it's possible to consider ALL possibilities in
many situations. IOW it's possible for math to prove some things will
never happen with no possible exceptions. To get around that you must
introduce new things (going beyond 1's and 0's or even numbers) or
inventing and precisely defining new operations.

> So for all concerned I will use the bit patterns as a data set.
>  I hope that meets with your approval.

See above.

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