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Re: We ( humanity ) _invent dimensions to simplify things.

From "F. Russell" <fr@random.info>
Newsgroups sci.physics, comp.os.linux.advocacy, alt.usenet.kooks
Subject Re: We ( humanity ) _invent dimensions to simplify things.
Date 2017-02-11 17:31 +0000
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On Sat, 11 Feb 2017 12:02:58 -0500, Wally W. wrote:

> 
> The results may not be knowable if the process is deterministic, but
> that doesn't make the results "random."
> 

Yes, it does.  The results are indistinguishable from what we define
as randomness.


>
> Unlike quantum mechanics, where there is a nonzero probability that a
> baseball thrown in New York will arrive on Mars,
>

You are an idiot that doesn't understand mathematics.

The probability decay in QM is exponential.  The value of the
wave amplitude on Mars would be on the order of 1E-1000000000000000
(i.e. 10^-10000000000000000) which to all beings except an idiot
is equal to ZERO.


>
> there is zero
> probability that the motion of a double pendulum will unexpectedly
> trace a portion of its path through the atmosphere of Mars.
> 

Again, the muttering of a total idiot.

If we sample the phase space trajectory of a double (or triple, or ...)
at uniform intervals we will obtain perfectly "random" results.

You are WAY out of your league, idiot.

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