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| From | "Tim Williams" <tiwill@seventransistorlabs.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | sci.electronics.design |
| Subject | Re: PNP for soft switch and reverse battery protection |
| Date | 2017-02-09 17:01 -0600 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
| Message-ID | <o7is7l$vci$1@dont-email.me> (permalink) |
| References | <20170209-191645.81.0@Peabody.ssl.astraweb.com> <dmjp9cpkjjrv6a32sk20ksj9m9f808hm7e@4ax.com> <20170209-224630.33.0@Peabody.ssl.astraweb.com> |
"Peabody" <waybackNO584SPAM44@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:20170209-224630.33.0@Peabody.ssl.astraweb.com... > I don't understand. It seems to me the PNP C-E does exactly the > same thing as a p-channel mosfet, which is to block current > from flowing when the battery is connected backward. So > it's the same for the main load with either device. It's > just the pesky PNP base that I'n worried about. The mosfet > doesn't present that problem, but then it can't both switch > and protect in a single device. > If your battery is single cell (i.e., up to 4V), the PNP blocks current in both directions (because 4V is below Vebo). Low-Vce(sat) types usually have quite high hFE in both forward and reverse directions. All you need to do, to make it "turn on" (doesn't matter which direction current flows), is draw base current. The base current goes in from whichever remaining terminal is at a higher voltage, emitter or collector (traditionally, emitter). With high hFE, the efficiency can be quite good (~99%), but if you aren't controlling base current to keep it proportional to load current, your average efficiency on a variable load will suck. If your load is highly variable, back-to-back PMOS starts to look really good -- and as a bonus, low voltage MOS has great specs: low Qg, high gain (1.8V logic level!) and low Rds(on). Tim -- Seven Transistor Labs, LLC Electrical Engineering Consultation and Contract Design Website: http://seventransistorlabs.com
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PNP for soft switch and reverse battery protection Peabody <waybackNO584SPAM44@yahoo.com> - 2017-02-09 13:16 -0600
Re: PNP for soft switch and reverse battery protection John Larkin <jjlarkinxyxy@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-02-09 11:34 -0800
Re: PNP for soft switch and reverse battery protection Peabody <waybackNO584SPAM44@yahoo.com> - 2017-02-09 16:47 -0600
Re: PNP for soft switch and reverse battery protection John Larkin <jjlarkinxyxy@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-02-09 15:40 -0800
Re: PNP for soft switch and reverse battery protection bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2017-02-10 10:47 -0500
Re: PNP for soft switch and reverse battery protection John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-02-10 08:30 -0800
Re: PNP for soft switch and reverse battery protection George Herold <gherold@teachspin.com> - 2017-02-10 07:25 -0800
Re: PNP for soft switch and reverse battery protection Peabody <waybackNO584SPAM44@yahoo.com> - 2017-02-10 11:37 -0600
Re: PNP for soft switch and reverse battery protection Lasse Langwadt Christensen <langwadt@fonz.dk> - 2017-02-10 11:19 -0800
Re: PNP for soft switch and reverse battery protection Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-02-10 12:48 -0700
Re: PNP for soft switch and reverse battery protection George Herold <gherold@teachspin.com> - 2017-02-10 12:24 -0800
Re: PNP for soft switch and reverse battery protection George Herold <gherold@teachspin.com> - 2017-02-10 12:22 -0800
Re: PNP for soft switch and reverse battery protection Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-02-09 13:21 -0700
Re: PNP for soft switch and reverse battery protection Peabody <waybackNO584SPAM44@yahoo.com> - 2017-02-09 16:46 -0600
Re: PNP for soft switch and reverse battery protection "Tim Williams" <tiwill@seventransistorlabs.com> - 2017-02-09 17:01 -0600
Re: PNP for soft switch and reverse battery protection Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-02-09 18:59 -0700
Re: PNP for soft switch and reverse battery protection "Tim Williams" <tiwill@seventransistorlabs.com> - 2017-02-10 13:17 -0600
Re: PNP for soft switch and reverse battery protection Winfield Hill <hill@rowland.harvard.edu> - 2017-02-10 14:29 -0800
Re: PNP for soft switch and reverse battery protection Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> - 2017-02-10 17:58 -0500
Re: PNP for soft switch and reverse battery protection Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-02-10 16:40 -0700
Re: PNP for soft switch and reverse battery protection M Philbrook <jamie_ka1lpa@charter.net> - 2017-02-10 18:23 -0500
Re: PNP for soft switch and reverse battery protection Lasse Langwadt Christensen <langwadt@fonz.dk> - 2017-02-09 14:55 -0800
Re: PNP for soft switch and reverse battery protection bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-02-09 17:31 -0800
Re: PNP for soft switch and reverse battery protection Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-02-10 08:50 -0700
Re: PNP for soft switch and reverse battery protection Peabody <waybackNO584SPAM44@yahoo.com> - 2017-02-10 11:18 -0600
Re: PNP for soft switch and reverse battery protection Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-02-10 12:41 -0700
Re: PNP for soft switch and reverse battery protection Peabody <waybackNO584SPAM44@yahoo.com> - 2017-02-10 16:28 -0600
Re: PNP for soft switch and reverse battery protection Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-02-10 16:44 -0700
Re: PNP for soft switch and reverse battery protection Peabody <waybackNO584SPAM44@yahoo.com> - 2017-02-10 20:49 -0600
Re: PNP for soft switch and reverse battery protection Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-02-10 20:10 -0700
Re: PNP for soft switch and reverse battery protection Peabody <waybackNO584SPAM44@yahoo.com> - 2017-02-11 11:38 -0600
Re: PNP for soft switch and reverse battery protection Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-02-11 11:07 -0700
Re: PNP for soft switch and reverse battery protection rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-02-11 18:46 -0500
Re: PNP for soft switch and reverse battery protection Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-02-11 11:15 -0700
Re: PNP for soft switch and reverse battery protection Peabody <waybackNO584SPAM44@yahoo.com> - 2017-02-11 18:31 -0600
Re: PNP for soft switch and reverse battery protection rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-02-11 19:50 -0500
Re: PNP for soft switch and reverse battery protection Clifford Heath <no.spam@please.net> - 2017-02-12 12:44 +1100
Re: PNP for soft switch and reverse battery protection Peabody <waybackNO584SPAM44@yahoo.com> - 2017-02-11 23:26 -0600
Re: PNP for soft switch and reverse battery protection Clifford Heath <no.spam@please.net> - 2017-02-12 18:19 +1100
Re: PNP for soft switch and reverse battery protection Lasse Langwadt Christensen <langwadt@fonz.dk> - 2017-02-12 08:18 -0800
Re: PNP for soft switch and reverse battery protection rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-02-14 01:52 -0500
Re: PNP for soft switch and reverse battery protection Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-02-11 18:04 -0700
Re: PNP for soft switch and reverse battery protection Peabody <waybackNO584SPAM44@yahoo.com> - 2017-02-11 23:14 -0600
Re: PNP for soft switch and reverse battery protection Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-02-12 08:18 -0700
Re: PNP for soft switch and reverse battery protection John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-02-12 08:29 -0800
Re: PNP for soft switch and reverse battery protection whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com> - 2017-02-10 13:54 -0800
Re: PNP for soft switch and reverse battery protection Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-02-10 08:53 -0700
Re: PNP for soft switch and reverse battery protection M Philbrook <jamie_ka1lpa@charter.net> - 2017-02-10 18:08 -0500
Re: PNP for soft switch and reverse battery protection Lasse Langwadt Christensen <langwadt@fonz.dk> - 2017-02-10 15:15 -0800
Re: PNP for soft switch and reverse battery protection M Philbrook <jamie_ka1lpa@charter.net> - 2017-02-10 18:34 -0500
Re: PNP for soft switch and reverse battery protection Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-02-11 12:47 -0700
Re: PNP for soft switch and reverse battery protection Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2017-02-14 06:13 +0000
Re: PNP for soft switch and reverse battery protection whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com> - 2017-02-14 00:52 -0800
Re: PNP for soft switch and reverse battery protection Peabody <waybackNO584SPAM44@yahoo.com> - 2017-02-14 22:26 -0600
Re: PNP for soft switch and reverse battery protection Peabody <waybackNO584SPAM44@yahoo.com> - 2017-02-14 22:16 -0600
Re: PNP for soft switch and reverse battery protection John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-02-14 21:42 -0800
Re: PNP for soft switch and reverse battery protection Peabody <waybackNO584SPAM44@yahoo.com> - 2017-02-15 00:21 -0600
Re: PNP for soft switch and reverse battery protection Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2017-02-15 11:44 +0000
Re: PNP for soft switch and reverse battery protection Peabody <waybackNO584SPAM44@yahoo.com> - 2017-02-15 08:15 -0600
Re: PNP for soft switch and reverse battery protection makolber@yahoo.com - 2017-02-15 09:30 -0800
Re: PNP for soft switch and reverse battery protection Peabody <waybackNO584SPAM44@yahoo.com> - 2017-02-15 11:50 -0600
Re: PNP for soft switch and reverse battery protection makolber@yahoo.com - 2017-02-15 10:07 -0800
Re: PNP for soft switch and reverse battery protection "Tim Williams" <tiwill@seventransistorlabs.com> - 2017-02-15 21:19 -0600
Re: PNP for soft switch and reverse battery protection George Herold <gherold@teachspin.com> - 2017-02-15 11:30 -0800
Re: PNP for soft switch and reverse battery protection makolber@yahoo.com - 2017-02-15 11:52 -0800
Re: PNP for soft switch and reverse battery protection George Herold <gherold@teachspin.com> - 2017-02-15 12:00 -0800
Re: PNP for soft switch and reverse battery protection John Larkin <jjlarkinxyxy@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-02-15 10:41 -0800
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