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Re: How to compile several C files

From David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no>
Newsgroups comp.lang.c
Subject Re: How to compile several C files
Date 2017-02-08 11:29 +0100
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On 08/02/17 10:43, Ian Collins wrote:
> On 02/ 8/17 10:28 PM, David Brown wrote:
>> On 08/02/17 05:35, Ian Collins wrote:
>>> On 02/ 8/17 04:42 AM, Richard Heathfield wrote:
>>>> On 07/02/17 15:06, Ben Bacarisse wrote:
>>>>> Once I have two files, I write a makefile.
>>>>
>>>> I'm slightly lazier than that. Once I have /one/ file, I write a
>>>> makefile.
>>>
>>> I'm lazier still so I get my IDE to generate a makefile :)
>>>
>>
>> My experience is that IDE's are really slow at making their makefiles.
>> If you've got an Eclipse project with a few directories and a bunch of
>> C, C++ and H files in them, then doing a "rebuild" after changing a
>> header file means Eclipse will first grind through all the C and C++
>> files doing (approximately) "gcc -MM" to figure out the dependencies to
>> generate the makefile.  Then it will do the full compilation on the
>> files that actually need to be re-compiled.  And while "gcc -MM" is a
>> good deal faster than a normal compile, it adds up when the IDE does it
>> for /all/ the project files.
> 
> One reason I prefer NetBeans to Eclipse!  It generates nice, simple
> makefiles without any fuss.
> 
>> My makefile generates the dependency files when it needs to - and
>> re-generates them when it needs to.  So for quick re-builds after small
>> changes, it is much faster than Eclipse's built-in project management.
> 
> As do NetBeans makefiles.
> 
>> My brief experience with MSVS was no better here.  But perhaps netbeans
>> or other IDEs are not as inefficient as Eclipse in this regard.
> 
> Yep.
> 
>> I also prefer a proper makefile because it is then independent from the
>> IDE.  If I need to re-open an old project (and my record is close to 20
>> years old) I have the compiler at hand, but I really hate having to
>> install some ancient IDE just to do the build.  It is also far easier to
>> make a fix via ssh from a mobile phone when building is done my "make"
>> and not "Tools | Build" in an IDE!
> 
> With NetBeans, you can do just that.
> 

I will maybe try it sometime.  The advantage of Eclipse for me is that
every microcontroller vendor uses Eclipse except Atmel AVR (which is
MSVS based) and Microchip (which use NetBeans).  So when I want the
vendor's debugger support, register viewing, and other goodies, it is
all Eclipse.

(I wonder if Microchip will redo AVR Studio as NetBeans now that they
own Atmel?  That would be nice - anything is better than a Windows-only
solution.)

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How to compile several C files Alla _ <modelling.data@gmail.com> - 2017-02-07 06:10 -0800
  Re: How to compile several C files Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2017-02-07 07:02 -0800
  Re: How to compile several C files David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-02-07 16:03 +0100
  Re: How to compile several C files Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-02-07 15:06 +0000
    Re: How to compile several C files BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-02-07 15:14 +0000
      Re: How to compile several C files Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-02-07 16:02 +0000
    Re: How to compile several C files Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2017-02-07 15:42 +0000
      Re: How to compile several C files Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-02-07 16:19 +0000
        Re: How to compile several C files Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2017-02-07 16:40 +0000
          Re: How to compile several C files Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-02-07 17:16 +0000
            Re: How to compile several C files David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-02-08 10:19 +0100
        Re: How to compile several C files "James R. Kuyper" <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2017-02-07 11:51 -0500
      Re: How to compile several C files Alla _ <modelling.data@gmail.com> - 2017-02-07 08:26 -0800
        Re: How to compile several C files Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2017-02-07 16:42 +0000
          Re: How to compile several C files Alla _ <modelling.data@gmail.com> - 2017-02-07 10:14 -0800
          Re: How to compile several C files vitale.alla@gmail.com - 2017-02-16 09:49 -0800
      Re: How to compile several C files Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-08 17:35 +1300
        Re: How to compile several C files David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-02-08 10:28 +0100
          Re: How to compile several C files Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-08 22:43 +1300
            Re: How to compile several C files David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-02-08 11:29 +0100
      Re: How to compile several C files David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-02-08 10:14 +0100
  Re: How to compile several C files James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2017-02-07 10:07 -0500
    Re: How to compile several C files Alla _ <modelling.data@gmail.com> - 2017-02-07 07:56 -0800
      Re: How to compile several C files Alla _ <modelling.data@gmail.com> - 2017-02-07 08:24 -0800
        Re: How to compile several C files Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-02-07 16:44 +0000
          Re: How to compile several C files Alla _ <modelling.data@gmail.com> - 2017-02-07 08:54 -0800
            Re: How to compile several C files "James R. Kuyper" <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2017-02-07 12:20 -0500
              Re: How to compile several C files Alla _ <modelling.data@gmail.com> - 2017-02-07 10:05 -0800
                Re: How to compile several C files Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2017-02-07 18:27 +0000
                Re: How to compile several C files Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2017-02-07 18:40 +0000
                Re: How to compile several C files Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-02-07 12:22 -0800
                Re: How to compile several C files David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-02-08 10:33 +0100
                Re: How to compile several C files Alla _ <modelling.data@gmail.com> - 2017-02-08 10:25 -0800
      Re: How to compile several C files Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-02-07 08:58 -0800
      Re: How to compile several C files "James R. Kuyper" <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2017-02-07 12:07 -0500
        Re: How to compile several C files Alla _ <modelling.data@gmail.com> - 2017-02-07 09:14 -0800
          Re: How to compile several C files Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2017-02-07 17:21 +0000
            Re: How to compile several C files Alla _ <modelling.data@gmail.com> - 2017-02-07 10:14 -0800
            Re: How to compile several C files Alla _ <modelling.data@gmail.com> - 2017-02-07 10:28 -0800
              Re: How to compile several C files Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2017-02-07 18:43 +0000
                Re: How to compile several C files Alla _ <modelling.data@gmail.com> - 2017-02-07 10:55 -0800
            Re: How to compile several C files Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-02-07 19:28 +0000
              Re: How to compile several C files Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2017-02-07 19:51 +0000
              Re: How to compile several C files David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-02-08 11:25 +0100
                Re: How to compile several C files Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2017-02-08 12:11 +0000
                Re: How to compile several C files David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-02-08 14:58 +0100
                Re: How to compile several C files Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2017-02-08 14:23 +0000
                Re: How to compile several C files supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-02-08 07:48 -0800
                Re: How to compile several C files Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2017-02-08 16:09 +0000
                Re: How to compile several C files David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-02-08 17:23 +0100
                Re: How to compile several C files Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-02-08 15:01 +0000
                Re: How to compile several C files David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-02-08 17:22 +0100
                Re: How to compile several C files Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-02-08 09:27 -0800
                Re: How to compile several C files supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-02-08 09:51 -0800
                Re: How to compile several C files Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-02-08 21:06 +0000
                Re: How to compile several C files supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-02-08 13:20 -0800
                Re: How to compile several C files Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-02-08 21:40 +0000
                Re: How to compile several C files supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-02-08 13:49 -0800
                Re: How to compile several C files Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-02-08 23:09 +0000
                Re: How to compile several C files David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-02-08 23:25 +0100
                Re: How to compile several C files supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-02-08 15:17 -0800
                Re: How to compile several C files David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-02-09 01:17 +0100
                Re: How to compile several C files David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-02-08 23:19 +0100
                Re: How to compile several C files Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-02-08 16:44 -0800
                Re: How to compile several C files Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2017-02-08 22:32 -0800
                Re: How to compile several C files Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2017-02-09 04:03 -0600
                Re: How to compile several C files Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-10 07:52 +1300
                Re: How to compile several C files Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-02-08 12:12 +0000
                Re: How to compile several C files BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-02-08 13:09 +0000
                Re: How to compile several C files Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2017-02-08 05:14 -0800
                Re: How to compile several C files Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-02-08 15:32 +0000
                Re: How to compile several C files David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-02-08 15:09 +0100
        Re: How to compile several C files Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-02-07 09:22 -0800
          Re: How to compile several C files Gareth Owen <gwowen@gmail.com> - 2017-02-07 18:29 +0000
            Re: How to compile several C files bart4858@gmail.com - 2017-02-07 11:05 -0800
            Re: How to compile several C files Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-02-07 12:26 -0800
  Re: How to compile several C files Barry Schwarz <schwarzb@dqel.com> - 2017-02-07 08:34 -0800
    Re: How to compile several C files Alla _ <modelling.data@gmail.com> - 2017-02-07 08:57 -0800
      Re: How to compile several C files "James R. Kuyper" <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2017-02-07 12:29 -0500
      Re: How to compile several C files Manfred <noname@invalid.add> - 2017-02-07 19:02 +0100

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