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| From | goldfarb@ocf.berkeley.edu (David Goldfarb) |
| Subject | Re: How Well-Read Are You in Science Fiction? |
| Message-ID | <o6s8Is.1Iw8@kithrup.com> (permalink) |
| Date | 2016-05-07 01:08 +0000 |
| References | <ng5ca4$497$1@dont-email.me> <ngh1o5$ks3$1@dont-email.me> <o6qqxI.GCq@kithrup.com> <7fd7cb61-91d8-4e7a-ac18-8eab2877a925@googlegroups.com> |
| Organization | Mt. Foraker Appreciation Society |
In article <7fd7cb61-91d8-4e7a-ac18-8eab2877a925@googlegroups.com>,
Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote:
>On Friday, May 6, 2016 at 12:00:03 AM UTC-6, David Goldfarb wrote:
>
>> De gustibus non disputandum est.
>> ("Matters of taste should not be disputed.")
>
>Shouldn't that be "Concerning taste, no disputation is possible", or something
>like that (perhaps a freer and more idiomatic "Matters of taste can't be
>argued")? After all, isn't it literally "Of taste, no disputation exists"?
No, "disputandum" does not mean "disputation". It's the gerundive
of the verb disputo, and this is an idiomatic construction called the
passive periphrastic. It was often used to indicate necessity
(e.g., in the well-known "Carthago delenda est") but can also be
weaker and mean "should" or "is worthy of". I think "matters of
taste must not be disputed" seems silly, so I find the weaker sense
more apropos.
--
David Goldfarb |"We were walking backwards because if we walked
goldfarbdj@gmail.com | forwards our eyeballs would freeze."
goldfarb@ocf.berkeley.edu | -- Graydon
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