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Re: "Visual C++ - Microsoft Pushes C++ into the Future"

From Cholo Lennon <chololennon@hotmail.com>
Newsgroups comp.lang.c++
Subject Re: "Visual C++ - Microsoft Pushes C++ into the Future"
Date 2017-01-17 12:12 -0300
Organization Aioe.org NNTP Server
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On 01/13/2017 11:54 PM, Asger Joergensen wrote:
> Hi Richard
> %
> Richard wrote:
>
>> [Please do not mail me a copy of your followup]
>>
>> Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> spake the secret code
>> <edq3afF4adcU1@mid.individual.net> thusly:
>>
>>> On 01/13/17 07:29 AM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
>>>> There are a dozen native IDE's available for linux with all the
>>>> same features as VS.
>>
>> Clearly you don't use VS for anything more fancy than typing.
>>
>> There is only one IDE that comes even close to VS productivity and
>> that is CLion.
>
> Don't forget C++Bulder
>

C++ Builder is (or was) really nice (I used it a lot until version 6), 
but IMO has some problems:
	
- It's proprietary
- It's very expensive
- Its main libraries (VCL and FireMonkey) are coded in Object Pascal: 
this imposes some limitations to C++, ie. some kind of MI are not 
allowed or source/header files (related to VCL) must have a strict 
naming convention in order to be compilable. Also debugging Pascal code 
is not funny :-P
- Until recently its compiler was behind modern standards (AFAIK they 
changed their ancient compiler for clang)
- It doesn't support Linux.
- It is difficult to integrate 3rd party libraries (nobody test their 
libraries with C++ Builder)


-- 
Cholo Lennon
Bs.As.
ARG

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"Visual C++ - Microsoft Pushes C++ into the Future" Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2017-01-10 14:05 -0600
  Re: "Visual C++ - Microsoft Pushes C++ into the Future" Real Troll <real.troll@trolls.com> - 2017-01-10 16:25 -0400
    Re: "Visual C++ - Microsoft Pushes C++ into the Future" Bo Persson <bop@gmb.dk> - 2017-01-10 21:57 +0100
    Re: "Visual C++ - Microsoft Pushes C++ into the Future" "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-01-10 12:59 -0800
  Re: "Visual C++ - Microsoft Pushes C++ into the Future" David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-01-10 22:43 +0100
    Re: "Visual C++ - Microsoft Pushes C++ into the Future" legalize+jeeves@mail.xmission.com (Richard) - 2017-01-10 22:24 +0000
      Re: "Visual C++ - Microsoft Pushes C++ into the Future" David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-01-11 00:28 +0100
        Re: "Visual C++ - Microsoft Pushes C++ into the Future" legalize+jeeves@mail.xmission.com (Richard) - 2017-01-11 00:46 +0000
          Re: "Visual C++ - Microsoft Pushes C++ into the Future" David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-01-11 09:12 +0100
      Re: "Visual C++ - Microsoft Pushes C++ into the Future" scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2017-01-11 18:06 +0000
        Re: "Visual C++ - Microsoft Pushes C++ into the Future" jonkalb <google@kalbweb.com> - 2017-01-11 19:55 -0800
          Re: "Visual C++ - Microsoft Pushes C++ into the Future" Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2017-01-11 22:21 -0600
            Re: "Visual C++ - Microsoft Pushes C++ into the Future" scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2017-01-12 13:30 +0000
            Re: "Visual C++ - Microsoft Pushes C++ into the Future" jonkalb <google@kalbweb.com> - 2017-01-14 00:15 -0800
              Re: "Visual C++ - Microsoft Pushes C++ into the Future" scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2017-01-16 13:40 +0000
                Re: "Visual C++ - Microsoft Pushes C++ into the Future" jonkalb <google@kalbweb.com> - 2017-01-16 21:46 -0800
                Re: "Visual C++ - Microsoft Pushes C++ into the Future" Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2017-01-17 03:31 -0800
        Re: "Visual C++ - Microsoft Pushes C++ into the Future" red floyd <dont.bother@its.invalid> - 2017-01-12 10:10 -0800
          Re: "Visual C++ - Microsoft Pushes C++ into the Future" scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2017-01-12 18:13 +0000
            Re: "Visual C++ - Microsoft Pushes C++ into the Future" red floyd <dont.bother@its.invalid> - 2017-01-12 10:15 -0800
              Re: "Visual C++ - Microsoft Pushes C++ into the Future" scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2017-01-12 18:22 +0000
    Re: "Visual C++ - Microsoft Pushes C++ into the Future" Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2017-01-11 17:45 +1300
  Re: "Visual C++ - Microsoft Pushes C++ into the Future" "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-01-12 10:25 -0800
    Re: "Visual C++ - Microsoft Pushes C++ into the Future" scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2017-01-12 18:29 +0000
      Re: "Visual C++ - Microsoft Pushes C++ into the Future" "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-01-12 10:51 -0800
      Re: "Visual C++ - Microsoft Pushes C++ into the Future" "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-01-12 10:55 -0800
      Re: "Visual C++ - Microsoft Pushes C++ into the Future" Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2017-01-13 08:21 +1300
        Re: "Visual C++ - Microsoft Pushes C++ into the Future" legalize+jeeves@mail.xmission.com (Richard) - 2017-01-12 21:13 +0000
          Re: "Visual C++ - Microsoft Pushes C++ into the Future" "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-01-12 20:29 -0800
          Re: "Visual C++ - Microsoft Pushes C++ into the Future" scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2017-01-13 13:25 +0000
          Re: "Visual C++ - Microsoft Pushes C++ into the Future" Cholo Lennon <chololennon@hotmail.com> - 2017-01-13 11:06 -0300
          Re: "Visual C++ - Microsoft Pushes C++ into the Future" "Asger Joergensen" <Junk@Asger-P.dk> - 2017-01-14 02:54 +0000
            Re: "Visual C++ - Microsoft Pushes C++ into the Future" Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2017-01-13 21:11 -0600
              Re: "Visual C++ - Microsoft Pushes C++ into the Future" "Asger Joergensen" <Junk@Asger-P.dk> - 2017-01-14 10:22 +0000
            Re: "Visual C++ - Microsoft Pushes C++ into the Future" legalize+jeeves@mail.xmission.com (Richard) - 2017-01-15 02:53 +0000
            Re: "Visual C++ - Microsoft Pushes C++ into the Future" Cholo Lennon <chololennon@hotmail.com> - 2017-01-17 12:12 -0300
      Re: "Visual C++ - Microsoft Pushes C++ into the Future" Cholo Lennon <chololennon@hotmail.com> - 2017-01-12 16:45 -0300
        Re: "Visual C++ - Microsoft Pushes C++ into the Future" "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-01-12 11:55 -0800

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