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Re: 'i don't know'

From Smiler <smiler@jo.king>
Newsgroups alt.atheism
Subject Re: 'i don't know'
Date 2017-01-12 01:38 +0000
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On Wed, 11 Jan 2017 11:26:52 -0800, Siri Cruise wrote:

> In article <056ffde7-5b89-42ea-bcc0-f382b0217c74@googlegroups.com>,
>  ed wolf <eduartwolf@gmx.net> wrote:
> 
>> > Since one can't prove a negative, proving that "there is no ghod"
> 
>> Agreed, but for me it is more like this:
> 
> So you're both fuckwits. I can prove no triangle in a hyperbolic plane
> has interior angles summing to π. It proven no map in a plane exists
> that requires more than four colours. It was proven entangled particles
> have no hidden state.
> 
> Also note that any quantified statement can be turned into a so-called
> negative.
> 
>     (all x)(px) = not (some x)(not px)
> 
>     (some x)(px) = not (all x)(not px)
> 
> This is a consequence of deMorgan:
> 
>     (not p and not q) = not (p or q)
> 
>     (not p or not q) = not (p and q)

Agreed, I can prove I don't have three legs and two heads, but nobody can 
prove a _universal_ negative.
Can you, for instance, prove that there are no leprechauns?
Have you looked under every rock on every planet in the universe?

Your supposed god character is supposedly everywhere, so is universal, and 
there is, therefore, no way to prove it doesn't exist.

> Your fallacy about can't prove a negative is just your lame
> rationalistion to introduce the law of constructed inconsistency
> 
>     (not |- p) implies (not p)

Implication is not proof, as any law enforcement officer will tell you.

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'i don't know' The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-01-10 22:59 -0800
  Re: 'i don't know' Helmut Wabnig <hwabnig@.- --- -.dotat> - 2017-01-11 08:38 +0100
    Re: 'i don't know' djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2017-01-11 14:09 +0000
      Re: 'i don't know' Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2017-01-11 08:33 -0800
        Re: 'i don't know' Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2017-01-11 08:46 -0800
        Re: 'i don't know' ed wolf <eduartwolf@gmx.net> - 2017-01-11 09:46 -0800
          Re: 'i don't know' Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2017-01-11 11:26 -0800
            Re: 'i don't know' Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2017-01-12 01:38 +0000
              Re: 'i don't know' Kadaitcha Man <nospam.nospam.nospam@gmail.com> - 2017-01-12 08:47 +0000
              Re: 'i don't know' Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2017-01-12 02:09 -0800
                Re: 'i don't know' Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2017-01-13 02:22 +0000
                Re: 'i don't know' Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2017-01-12 23:01 -0600
                Re: 'i don't know' Roselia Holder <vomit-inducing.hurry-whore@rec.arts.female.ejaculation> - 2017-01-13 05:16 +0000
                Re: 'i don't know' Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2017-01-14 01:33 +0000
                Re: 'i don't know' hypatiab7 <hypatiab7@comcast.net> - 2017-01-13 17:39 -0800
                Re: 'i don't know' Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2017-01-14 05:41 -0600
                Re: 'i don't know' Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2017-01-14 04:50 -0800
        Re: 'i don't know' Kadaitcha Man <nospam.nospam.nospam@gmail.com> - 2017-01-12 07:16 +0000
  Re: 'i don't know' Jørgen Farum Jensen <farumjensen@mailme.dk> - 2017-01-11 14:08 +0100
    Re: 'i don't know' ed wolf <eduartwolf@gmx.net> - 2017-01-11 09:50 -0800
      Re: 'i don't know' Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2017-01-12 01:43 +0000
        Re: 'i don't know' aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> - 2017-01-12 10:58 +0800
          Re: 'i don't know' Jørgen Farum Jensen <farumjensen@mailme.dk> - 2017-01-12 21:37 +0100
            Re: 'i don't know' aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> - 2017-01-13 11:42 +0800
              Re: 'i don't know' Jørgen Farum Jensen <farumjensen@mailme.dk> - 2017-01-13 08:52 +0100
                Re: 'i don't know' Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2017-01-13 04:54 -0600
                Re: 'i don't know' Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2017-01-13 06:43 -0800
                Re: 'i don't know' aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> - 2017-01-13 19:11 +0800
                Re: 'i don't know' Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2017-01-14 01:37 +0000
                Re: 'i don't know' hypatiab7 <hypatiab7@comcast.net> - 2017-01-13 17:48 -0800
                Re: 'i don't know' Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2017-01-15 02:35 +0000
                Re: 'i don't know' aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> - 2017-01-14 19:03 +0800
                Re: 'i don't know' Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2017-01-15 02:37 +0000
                Re: 'i don't know' aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> - 2017-01-15 15:42 +0800
                Re: 'i don't know' hhyapster@gmail.com - 2017-01-13 18:11 -0800
                Re: 'i don't know' aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> - 2017-01-14 19:08 +0800
                Re: 'i don't know' Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2017-01-14 05:45 -0600
                Re: 'i don't know' aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> - 2017-01-15 01:26 +0800
                Re: 'i don't know' Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2017-01-15 02:46 +0000
                Re: 'i don't know' Kadaitcha Man <nospam.nospam.nospam@gmail.com> - 2017-01-15 03:34 +0000
                Re: 'i don't know' Don Martin <drdonmartin@comcast.net> - 2017-01-15 10:33 -0500
                Re: 'i don't know' John Baker <nunya@bizniz.net> - 2017-01-15 13:03 -0500
                Re: 'i don't know' Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2017-01-15 12:56 -0600
          Re: 'i don't know' Hope Simmers <Hope_Simmers@hotmail.com> - 2017-01-12 13:17 -0800
            Re: 'i don't know' aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> - 2017-01-13 11:54 +0800
              Re: 'i don't know' Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2017-01-14 01:43 +0000
                Atheists do not understand science Kadaitcha Man <nospam.nospam.nospam@gmail.com> - 2017-01-14 03:39 +0000
                Re: Atheists do not understand science "Checkmate, DoW #1" <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> - 2017-01-13 19:52 -0800
                Re: Atheists do not understand science Kadaitcha Man <nospam.nospam.nospam@gmail.com> - 2017-01-14 04:29 +0000
                Re: Atheists do not understand science "Checkmate, DoW #1" <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> - 2017-01-13 20:53 -0800
                Re: Atheists do not understand science "%" <persent@gmail.com> - 2017-01-13 22:00 -0700
                Re: Atheists do not understand science Kadaitcha Man <nospam.nospam.nospam@gmail.com> - 2017-01-14 05:10 +0000
                Re: Atheists do not understand science "Checkmate, DoW #1" <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> - 2017-01-13 21:15 -0800
                Re: Atheists do not understand science "Sir Gregory Hall, Esq." <greghall@yacht_master.fake> - 2017-01-14 13:34 -0500
                Re: Atheists do not understand science "Checkmate, DoW #1" <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> - 2017-01-14 10:39 -0800
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                Re: 'i don't know' Irreverend Dave <reverend_dave@ministerpants.com> - 2017-01-14 05:30 +0000
                Re: 'i don't know' Don Martin <drdonmartin@comcast.net> - 2017-01-14 08:43 -0500
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                Re: 'i don't know' Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2017-01-15 01:52 +0000
                Re: 'i don't know' Kadaitcha Man <nospam.nospam.nospam@gmail.com> - 2017-01-15 01:58 +0000
                Re: 'i don't know' Don Martin <drdonmartin@comcast.net> - 2017-01-15 10:33 -0500
                Re: 'i don't know' Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2017-01-15 01:40 +0000
                Re: 'i don't know' aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> - 2017-01-14 19:43 +0800
                Re: 'i don't know' Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2017-01-15 02:01 +0000
                Re: 'i don't know' aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> - 2017-01-15 16:00 +0800
                Re: 'i don't know' Mitchell Holman <noemail@verizont.net> - 2017-01-15 09:52 -0600
                Re: 'i don't know' Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2017-01-15 10:03 -0600
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          Re: 'i don't know' Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2017-01-12 13:27 -0800
            Re: 'i don't know' aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> - 2017-01-13 12:01 +0800
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                Re: 'i don't know' Don Martin <drdonmartin@comcast.net> - 2017-01-13 22:01 -0500
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                Re: 'i don't know' aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> - 2017-01-15 22:30 +0800
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          Re: 'i don't know' Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2017-01-14 06:28 -0600
        Re: 'i don't know' SteveGG <casagiannoni@optonline.net> - 2017-01-13 09:09 -0500
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                Re: 'i don't know' Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-01-14 20:58 +0000
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                Re: 'i don't know' Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-01-14 21:10 +0000
                Re: 'i don't know' Kadaitcha Man <nospam.nospam.nospam@gmail.com> - 2017-01-14 22:34 +0000
                Re: 'i don't know' Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-01-15 10:54 +0000
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