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Re: Dialing 111 from abroad

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Tweed wrote:
> Mark Carver <invalid.invalid@gmx.net> wrote:
>> On 10/01/2017 21:20, David Wade wrote:
>>
>>>>
>>> Surely it depends on the number presented. I can present a UK number on
>>> Skype when calling from Spain, or a Spanish Mobile when calling from the
>>> UK. The latter freaks my Spanish builder out...
>>>
>>> .. just tried it from Spain on a Windows PC and presenting a UK number
>>> and I too get the "Welcome to NHS24, press 9 to continue"
>>
>> My Skype account presents my UK mobile number, and as I say, dialling
>> '+44 111' gets the NU tone. The app (on my phone) doesn't allow me to
>> dial anything without an international prefix.
>>
>>
>
> Having an elderly parent in much the same position I thought I might want
> to do the same as Mark one day. I rang the admin office of my local
> (English) 111 provider (first question - how did you get this number, it's
> for professionals only. Me: it's on your website, Them: oh, we must get it
> removed) The upshot of the conversation is that they said 111 would not
> "triage" my mother unless the person calling on her behalf was in the same
> house, so there was no point in trying to call from elsewhere.

This is fair coment.  For the purposes of the OP and his mother, he now 
needs to put something in place that will meet this requirement.  He's 
mentioned panic alarms and the like and the difficulty of persuading his 
mother to use/wear one; but this is the way to go.  It can be linked 
with nearby friends and relatives (if any exist) who can be provided 
with a key for access.  As to peruading the old lady to use the system - 
perhaps find examples of neighbours who have benefitted from their use ...?

> Anyway, I'd
> caution against 111 anyway. Last time I used them they wanted me to drag my
> mother, who had just fallen, into hospital on my own. After giving up on
> them and calling 999 the resultant ambulance crew took her into hospital
> under blue lights and she went straight to the resus bay, bypassing all
> queues. She then spent three weeks in hospital with a serious lung
> infection. I think if I'd followed 111's advice she might have died.

Clearly the cost to the NHS if she had died would have been less - 
perhaps this is the purpose of the 111 helpline?

More recently a friend called 999 about her husband (aged about 70), who 
appeared to be seriously ill having returned from abroad a couple of 
days previously (so suspicion about unusual foreign diseases) and the 
999 service was too busy to collect him; so with a neighbour's help my 
friend was able to get him into her own car and take him to A&E herself. 
  The poor chap spent a week in the hospital gradually recovering, 
without anybody being able to say exactly what had caused his problem.

-- 
Graham J

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Dialing 111 from abroad Mark Carver <mark.carver@invalid.invalid> - 2017-01-08 10:52 +0000
  Re: Dialing 111 from abroad Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> - 2017-01-08 12:37 +0000
    Re: Dialing 111 from abroad andrew@cucumber.demon.co.uk (Andrew Gabriel) - 2017-01-08 13:56 +0000
      Re: Dialing 111 from abroad Mark Carver <mark.carver@invalid.invalid> - 2017-01-08 15:32 +0000
        Re: Dialing 111 from abroad "Woody" <harrogate3@ntlworld.com> - 2017-01-08 18:39 +0000
          Re: Dialing 111 from abroad Mark Carver <mark.carver@invalid.invalid> - 2017-01-08 19:22 +0000
            Re: Dialing 111 from abroad Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> - 2017-01-08 19:38 +0000
              Re: Dialing 111 from abroad Mark Carver <mark.carver@invalid.invalid> - 2017-01-08 19:39 +0000
                Re: Dialing 111 from abroad Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> - 2017-01-08 20:17 +0000
                Re: Dialing 111 from abroad Graham J <graham@invalid.com> - 2017-01-09 08:50 +0000
                Re: Dialing 111 from abroad Mark Carver <invalid.invalid@gmx.net> - 2017-01-09 09:41 +0000
                Re: Dialing 111 from abroad Graham J <graham@invalid.com> - 2017-01-09 13:03 +0000
                Re: Dialing 111 from abroad Mark Carver <invalid.invalid@gmx.net> - 2017-01-10 07:36 +0000
                Re: Dialing 111 from abroad David Woolley <david@ex.djwhome.demon.invalid> - 2017-01-10 07:52 +0000
                Re: Dialing 111 from abroad Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> - 2017-01-15 21:23 +0000
            Re: Dialing 111 from abroad Martin Brown <|||newspam|||@nezumi.demon.co.uk> - 2017-01-12 09:15 +0000
              Re: Dialing 111 from abroad Mark Carver <invalid.invalid@gmx.net> - 2017-01-12 09:32 +0000
              Re: Dialing 111 from abroad Flop <Flop@flop.knot.me.uk> - 2017-01-12 10:08 +0000
                Re: Dialing 111 from abroad "Woody" <harrogate3@ntlworld.com> - 2017-01-12 11:57 +0000
      Re: Dialing 111 from abroad Graham. <graham-usenet@mail.com> - 2017-01-08 19:14 +0000
  Re: Dialing 111 from abroad David Wade <dave.g4ugm@gmail.com> - 2017-01-09 17:06 +0000
    Re: Dialing 111 from abroad Mark Carver <invalid.invalid@gmx.net> - 2017-01-10 07:27 +0000
      Re: Dialing 111 from abroad Flop <Flop@flop.knot.me.uk> - 2017-01-10 09:50 +0000
      Re: Dialing 111 from abroad Graham. <graham-usenet@mail.com> - 2017-01-10 19:58 +0000
        Re: Dialing 111 from abroad David Wade <dave.g4ugm@gmail.com> - 2017-01-10 21:20 +0000
          Re: Dialing 111 from abroad Graham. <graham-usenet@mail.com> - 2017-01-10 22:42 +0000
            Re: Dialing 111 from abroad David Wade <dave.g4ugm@gmail.com> - 2017-01-12 19:31 +0000
              Re: Dialing 111 from abroad Graham. <graham-usenet@mail.com> - 2017-01-13 01:41 +0000
                Re: Dialing 111 from abroad David Wade <dave.g4ugm@gmail.com> - 2017-01-13 07:28 +0000
          Re: Dialing 111 from abroad Mark Carver <invalid.invalid@gmx.net> - 2017-01-11 09:37 +0000
            Re: Dialing 111 from abroad Tweed <guesswho@who.com> - 2017-01-11 11:01 +0000
              Re: Dialing 111 from abroad Graham J <graham@invalid.com> - 2017-01-11 15:47 +0000
                Re: Dialing 111 from abroad "Woody" <harrogate3@ntlworld.com> - 2017-01-11 17:10 +0000
                Re: Dialing 111 from abroad Graham J <graham@invalid.com> - 2017-01-11 18:35 +0000
                Re: Dialing 111 from abroad "NY" <me@privacy.net> - 2017-01-11 19:23 +0000
                Re: Dialing 111 from abroad Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2017-01-11 18:14 +0000
                Re: Dialing 111 from abroad Mark Carver <invalid.invalid@gmx.net> - 2017-01-12 09:42 +0000
                Re: Dialing 111 from abroad Martin Brown <|||newspam|||@nezumi.demon.co.uk> - 2017-01-12 10:05 +0000
                Re: Dialing 111 from abroad Mark Carver <invalid.invalid@gmx.net> - 2017-01-12 10:24 +0000
                Re: Dialing 111 from abroad "Woody" <harrogate3@ntlworld.com> - 2017-01-12 12:01 +0000
                Re: Dialing 111 from abroad Mark Carver <invalid.invalid@gmx.net> - 2017-01-12 13:40 +0000
              Re: Dialing 111 from abroad Mark Carver <invalid.invalid@gmx.net> - 2017-01-12 09:38 +0000
                Re: Dialing 111 from abroad Tweed <guesswho@who.com> - 2017-01-12 19:52 +0000
                Re: Dialing 111 from abroad "NY" <me@privacy.net> - 2017-01-13 10:18 +0000
                Re: Dialing 111 from abroad MissRiaElaine <MissRiaElaine@thisaddress.invalid> - 2017-01-13 15:52 +0000
                Re: Dialing 111 from abroad Graham. <graham-usenet@mail.com> - 2017-01-14 16:03 +0000
                Re: Dialing 111 from abroad MissRiaElaine <MissRiaElaine@thisaddress.invalid> - 2017-01-16 15:24 +0000
                Re: Dialing 111 from abroad Graham. <graham-usenet@mail.com> - 2017-01-16 18:21 +0000
        Re: Dialing 111 from abroad Mark Carver <invalid.invalid@gmx.net> - 2017-01-12 14:18 +0000

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