Re: gcc needs a curly bracket matching/counting function

From	BartC <bc@freeuk.com>
Newsgroups	comp.lang.c
Subject	Re: gcc needs a curly bracket matching/counting function
Date	2016-12-22 12:16 +0000
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On 22/12/2016 01:54, Ben Bacarisse wrote:
> BartC <bc@freeuk.com> writes:

>> A68: if a;b then c;d;e elif f then g elif h then i;j else k fi
>>
>> C:   if (a,b) {c;d;e;} else if (f) g; else if (h) {i;j;} else k;
> <snip>
>> - There are probably more placement styles for { and } than are
>>   possible with the A68 scheme; yet more variability in code.
>
> I think you are forgetting.  Did you write BEGIN ... END, 'begin'
> ... 'end' or .BEGIN ... .END?

I don't remember BEGIN...END in that language. I used them in Algol and 
Pascal and they were just as annoying as {...} in C.

   And you can use (...)  instead of begin
> ... end, just as there's no need to use 'IF' 'THEN' 'ELSE' either since
> you might choose to use ( | and ).  And what were the options for
> writing multiplication and so on in your favourite compiler?  And, of
> course, then there is white space in identifiers...
>
> Algol 68 has plenty of ways to introduce variability in code.

Yes, actual A68 implementations with their various 'stropping' schemes 
resulted in some very ugly source code; it's not surprising it didn't 
catch on. And I didn't care much for the rest of the language.

But I'm actually thinking of my own syntax which is derived from Algol 
68 (just like C's could have been) which doesn't have those issues you 
mentioned. You don't have to literally copy everything including all the 
warts.

(As for the short-forms such as (a|b|c) for 'if-then-else-fi', I only 
allow those in expressions.)

A few years ago I was using a thin wrapper around C source code which 
replaced {,} around statement blocks with 'then', 'do' and so on.

Here are two example functions; although they don't look like it, the 
code is actually C apart from the block delimiters**:

http://pastebin.com/UanK17aH

And this is the translation to actual C; notice the line numbers 
correspond exactly, as it is a line-at-a-time translation:

http://pastebin.com/vQ621sGs

It really doesn't take much to turn C syntax into an Algol-68 lookalike! 
The translator was about 400 lines of code.

(** There were few other things that were different:

* := used in place of =

* = used in place of ==, and <> for !=

* Empty macros such as 'function', 'proc' and 'global' are used

* 'FORD' is a macro for a down-counting A to B for-statement

* The translator also extracted local functions prototypes into a .cl
   file (included in the same module), and global ones into a .cx file
   (included in some common header).)

-- 
Bartc

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gcc needs a curly bracket matching/counting function DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-12-19 20:38 -0500
  Re: gcc needs a curly bracket matching/counting function Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-12-20 01:59 +0000
    Re: gcc needs a curly bracket matching/counting function DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-12-19 22:30 -0500
      Re: gcc needs a curly bracket matching/counting function Robert Spanjaard <spamtrap@arumes.com> - 2016-12-20 11:46 +0100
      Re: gcc needs a curly bracket matching/counting function BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-12-20 13:20 +0000
        Re: gcc needs a curly bracket matching/counting function Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-12-20 13:30 +0000
        Re: gcc needs a curly bracket matching/counting function "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2016-12-20 05:35 -0800
          Re: gcc needs a curly bracket matching/counting function David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2016-12-21 12:07 +0100
            Re: gcc needs a curly bracket matching/counting function BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-12-21 12:46 +0000
              Re: gcc needs a curly bracket matching/counting function David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2016-12-21 15:10 +0100
                Re: gcc needs a curly bracket matching/counting function BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-12-21 17:10 +0000
                Re: gcc needs a curly bracket matching/counting function David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2016-12-21 19:50 +0100
                Re: gcc needs a curly bracket matching/counting function BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-12-21 20:15 +0000
                Re: gcc needs a curly bracket matching/counting function Ike Naar <ike@iceland.freeshell.org> - 2016-12-21 22:36 +0000
                Re: gcc needs a curly bracket matching/counting function BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-12-21 23:46 +0000
                Re: gcc needs a curly bracket matching/counting function Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2016-12-22 01:54 +0000
                Re: gcc needs a curly bracket matching/counting function BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-12-22 12:16 +0000
                Re: gcc needs a curly bracket matching/counting function Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2016-12-22 13:06 +0000
                Re: gcc needs a curly bracket matching/counting function asetofsymbols@gmail.com - 2016-12-22 05:25 -0800
                Re: gcc needs a curly bracket matching/counting function BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-12-22 13:34 +0000
                Re: gcc needs a curly bracket matching/counting function asetofsymbols@gmail.com - 2016-12-22 08:16 -0800
                Re: gcc needs a curly bracket matching/counting function Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2016-12-22 09:30 -0800
                Re: gcc needs a curly bracket matching/counting function luser droog <luser.droog@gmail.com> - 2016-12-22 09:40 -0800
                Re: gcc needs a curly bracket matching/counting function "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2016-12-22 05:33 -0800
                Re: gcc needs a curly bracket matching/counting function "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2016-12-22 05:41 -0800
                Re: gcc needs a curly bracket matching/counting function BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-12-22 14:53 +0000
                Re: gcc needs a curly bracket matching/counting function asetofsymbols@gmail.com - 2016-12-22 08:11 -0800
                Re: gcc needs a curly bracket matching/counting function "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2016-12-22 08:27 -0800
                Re: gcc needs a curly bracket matching/counting function BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-12-22 16:48 +0000
                Re: gcc needs a curly bracket matching/counting function "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2016-12-22 09:27 -0800
                Re: gcc needs a curly bracket matching/counting function Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2016-12-22 20:12 +0000
                Re: gcc needs a curly bracket matching/counting function "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2016-12-22 12:18 -0800
              Re: gcc needs a curly bracket matching/counting function Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2016-12-21 09:04 -0800
                Re: gcc needs a curly bracket matching/counting function BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-12-21 17:24 +0000
                Re: gcc needs a curly bracket matching/counting function Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2016-12-21 09:41 -0800
                Re: gcc needs a curly bracket matching/counting function Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-22 18:10 +1300
                Re: gcc needs a curly bracket matching/counting function Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-29 14:50 +1300
                Re: gcc needs a curly bracket matching/counting function Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2017-01-02 02:07 -0800
                Re: gcc needs a curly bracket matching/counting function David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-01-02 11:16 +0100
                Re: gcc needs a curly bracket matching/counting function Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2016-12-28 16:40 -0800
            Re: gcc needs a curly bracket matching/counting function Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2016-12-21 08:52 -0800
              Re: gcc needs a curly bracket matching/counting function David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2016-12-21 20:16 +0100
                Re: gcc needs a curly bracket matching/counting function David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2016-12-22 09:41 +0100
      Re: gcc needs a curly bracket matching/counting function Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2016-12-20 17:04 +0000
        Re: gcc needs a curly bracket matching/counting function BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-12-20 18:46 +0000
          Re: gcc needs a curly bracket matching/counting function Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2016-12-20 21:55 +0000
        Re: gcc needs a curly bracket matching/counting function DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-12-20 13:52 -0500
          Re: gcc needs a curly bracket matching/counting function Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-12-20 19:09 +0000
          Re: gcc needs a curly bracket matching/counting function BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-12-20 19:14 +0000
            Re: gcc needs a curly bracket matching/counting function Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2016-12-20 12:16 -0800
              Re: gcc needs a curly bracket matching/counting function Gareth Owen <gwowen@gmail.com> - 2016-12-20 20:53 +0000
                Re: gcc needs a curly bracket matching/counting function Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2016-12-20 13:51 -0800
                Re: gcc needs a curly bracket matching/counting function Gareth Owen <gwowen@gmail.com> - 2016-12-29 18:49 +0000
                Re: gcc needs a curly bracket matching/counting function Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2016-12-28 16:36 -0800
                Re: gcc needs a curly bracket matching/counting function David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2016-12-29 12:44 +0100
              Re: gcc needs a curly bracket matching/counting function bart4858@gmail.com - 2016-12-20 13:25 -0800
                Re: gcc needs a curly bracket matching/counting function Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2016-12-20 13:39 -0800
                Re: gcc needs a curly bracket matching/counting function BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-12-20 21:58 +0000
                Re: gcc needs a curly bracket matching/counting function Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2016-12-20 14:05 -0800
                Re: gcc needs a curly bracket matching/counting function Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2016-12-20 22:17 +0000
                Re: gcc needs a curly bracket matching/counting function BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-01-26 19:03 +0000
                Re: gcc needs a curly bracket matching/counting function Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2016-12-20 14:31 -0800
                Re: gcc needs a curly bracket matching/counting function BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-12-20 23:21 +0000
                Re: gcc needs a curly bracket matching/counting function Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2016-12-20 15:51 -0800
                Re: gcc needs a curly bracket matching/counting function BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-12-21 00:38 +0000
                Re: gcc needs a curly bracket matching/counting function BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-01-26 19:11 +0000
    Re: gcc needs a curly bracket matching/counting function mark.bluemel@gmail.com - 2016-12-20 00:50 -0800
  gcc needs a curly bracket matching/counting function "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2016-12-19 18:11 -0800
    Re: gcc needs a curly bracket matching/counting function fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2016-12-20 03:00 -0800
      Re: gcc needs a curly bracket matching/counting function Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2016-12-20 03:50 -0800
        Re: gcc needs a curly bracket matching/counting function fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2016-12-20 05:20 -0800
    Re: gcc needs a curly bracket matching/counting function DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-12-20 13:46 -0500
      Re: gcc needs a curly bracket matching/counting function BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-12-20 18:59 +0000
      Re: gcc needs a curly bracket matching/counting function Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-12-20 19:02 +0000
        Re: gcc needs a curly bracket matching/counting function Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2016-12-20 12:13 -0800
          Re: gcc needs a curly bracket matching/counting function Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-12-20 20:25 +0000
      Re: gcc needs a curly bracket matching/counting function Robert Spanjaard <spamtrap@arumes.com> - 2016-12-20 20:35 +0100
  Re: gcc needs a curly bracket matching/counting function David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2016-12-20 08:56 +0100
  Re: gcc needs a curly bracket matching/counting function Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2016-12-20 02:26 -0800
    Re: gcc needs a curly bracket matching/counting function Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-12-20 10:41 +0000
      Re: gcc needs a curly bracket matching/counting function Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2016-12-20 02:52 -0800
        Re: gcc needs a curly bracket matching/counting function Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-12-20 11:00 +0000
          Re: gcc needs a curly bracket matching/counting function Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2016-12-20 03:19 -0800
            Re: gcc needs a curly bracket matching/counting function Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-12-20 11:31 +0000
            Re: gcc needs a curly bracket matching/counting function Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2016-12-20 17:21 +0000
              Re: gcc needs a curly bracket matching/counting function Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-12-20 17:49 +0000
                Re: gcc needs a curly bracket matching/counting function David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2016-12-21 12:25 +0100
                Re: gcc needs a curly bracket matching/counting function Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2016-12-29 01:14 -0800
    Re: gcc needs a curly bracket matching/counting function Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2016-12-20 09:07 -0800
      Re: gcc needs a curly bracket matching/counting function Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-12-20 17:14 +0000
        Re: gcc needs a curly bracket matching/counting function Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2016-12-20 09:33 -0800
          Re: gcc needs a curly bracket matching/counting function Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-12-20 17:39 +0000
          Re: gcc needs a curly bracket matching/counting function "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2016-12-20 09:45 -0800
      Re: gcc needs a curly bracket matching/counting function gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2016-12-20 17:56 +0000
        Re: gcc needs a curly bracket matching/counting function "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2016-12-20 10:01 -0800
    Re: gcc needs a curly bracket matching/counting function Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-21 07:44 +1300
  Re: gcc needs a curly bracket matching/counting function BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-12-20 10:46 +0000
  Re: gcc needs a curly bracket matching/counting function Ike Naar <ike@iceland.freeshell.org> - 2016-12-20 22:00 +0000
    Re: gcc needs a curly bracket matching/counting function Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2016-12-28 16:39 -0800
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  Re: gcc needs a curly bracket matching/counting function Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2016-12-22 12:59 -0700
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