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| From | Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | rec.arts.sf.written, sci.physics, sci.physics.relativity, alt.astronomy |
| Subject | Re: Why We Imagine Aliens Look Like This |
| Date | 2016-12-21 22:01 -0800 |
| Organization | Datemas.de http://www.news.datemas.de |
| Message-ID | <o3fq80$s2o$1@news.datemas.de> (permalink) |
| References | (9 earlier) <o3ffug$9ot$1@news.datemas.de> <VIRGIL-AA4450.20563821122016@news.giganews.com> <o3fj7k$fg7$4@news.datemas.de> <585B5972.7745@ix.netcom.com> <VIRGIL-373F4F.22555421122016@news.giganews.com> |
Cross-posted to 4 groups.
On 2016-12-21 9:55 PM, Virgil wrote: > In article <585B5972.7745@ix.netcom.com>, > The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote: > >> Alan Baker wrote: >>> >>> On 2016-12-21 7:56 PM, Virgil wrote: >>>> In article <o3ffug$9ot$1@news.datemas.de>, >>>> Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> While we have no data that directly supports the presence of life >>>>> anywhere in the universe, we have lots and lots of data that there are >>>>> something the order of 100 billion galaxies in the observable universe. >>>>> >>>>> Combining that data with the things we have learned about the formation >>>>> of stars and planets, and we are left with the observation that >>>>> somewhere out there among the 70 billion trillion stars (yes: 7 x 10^22) >>>>> there are almost certainly many others that also support life and >>>>> indeed, intelligent life. >>>> >>>> We do not know either how nor why life came into being on Earth, >>>> so we know nothing of its probability of having developed elsewhere. >>>> For all we know, Earth may be unique in this respect. >>>> >>> >>> It may be... >>> >>> ...but with a population of 7 x 10^22 stars to choose from... >>> >>> ...is it likely? >>> >>> :-) >> >> No, not likely...IMPOSSIBLE! > > For all we know, the necessary format for life starting > and surviving may require a special type solar system, > or even a special type of galaxy, so speculating in such > ignorance on the odds of it happening elsewhere > or elsewhen is purely a mugs game. > of solar system > What we KNOW is that the universe runs by certain physical laws and those laws give rise to the same sorts of galaxies and stars throughout it.
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Re: Why We Imagine Aliens Look Like This djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-12-21 14:37 +0000
Re: Why We Imagine Aliens Look Like This David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2016-12-25 08:22 -0600
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Re: Why We Imagine Aliens Look Like This djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-12-15 01:36 +0000
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Re: Why We Imagine Aliens Look Like This djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-12-15 13:36 +0000
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Re: Why We Imagine Aliens Look Like This synthius2002@yahoo.com - 2016-12-20 18:39 -0800
Re: Why We Imagine Aliens Look Like This The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-12-20 22:05 -0800
Re: Why We Imagine Aliens Look Like This The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-12-20 22:22 -0800
Re: Why We Imagine Aliens Look Like This The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-12-20 23:03 -0800
Re: Why We Imagine Aliens Look Like This SteveGG <casagiannoni@optonline.net> - 2016-12-21 14:05 -0500
Re: Why We Imagine Aliens Look Like This djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-12-21 22:25 +0000
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Re: Why We Imagine Aliens Look Like This David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2016-12-25 08:25 -0600
Re: Why We Imagine Aliens Look Like This The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-12-21 18:33 -0800
Re: Why We Imagine Aliens Look Like This mcdowell_ag@sky.com - 2016-12-21 21:58 -0800
Re: Why We Imagine Aliens Look Like This Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2016-12-21 19:06 -0800
Re: Why We Imagine Aliens Look Like This The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-12-21 20:37 -0800
Re: Why We Imagine Aliens Look Like This Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-12-21 14:43 -0700
Re: Why We Imagine Aliens Look Like This Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2016-12-21 19:05 -0800
Re: Why We Imagine Aliens Look Like This Virgil <VIRGIL@VIRGIL.com> - 2016-12-21 20:56 -0700
Re: Why We Imagine Aliens Look Like This Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2016-12-21 20:01 -0800
Re: Why We Imagine Aliens Look Like This The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-12-21 20:41 -0800
Re: Why We Imagine Aliens Look Like This Virgil <VIRGIL@VIRGIL.com> - 2016-12-21 22:55 -0700
Re: Why We Imagine Aliens Look Like This Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2016-12-21 22:01 -0800
Re: Why We Imagine Aliens Look Like This Virgil <VIRGIL@VIRGIL.com> - 2016-12-21 23:17 -0700
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Re: Why We Imagine Aliens Look Like This Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-12-22 09:06 -0700
Re: Why We Imagine Aliens Look Like This Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-12-22 09:05 -0700
Re: Why We Imagine Aliens Look Like This Virgil <VIRGIL@VIRGIL.com> - 2016-12-21 22:45 -0700
Re: Why We Imagine Aliens Look Like This Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2016-12-21 21:47 -0800
Re: Why We Imagine Aliens Look Like This Virgil <VIRGIL@VIRGIL.com> - 2016-12-21 23:05 -0700
Re: Why We Imagine Aliens Look Like This Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-12-22 06:13 -0800
Re: Why We Imagine Aliens Look Like This Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2016-12-22 08:42 -0800
Re: Why We Imagine Aliens Look Like This Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-12-22 09:09 -0700
Re: Why We Imagine Aliens Look Like This Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2016-12-22 09:15 -0800
Re: Why We Imagine Aliens Look Like This Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-12-22 09:32 -0700
Re: Why We Imagine Aliens Look Like This Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2016-12-22 09:37 -0800
Re: Why We Imagine Aliens Look Like This Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-12-22 10:25 -0700
Gutless whining (was Re: Why We Imagine Aliens Look Like This Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2016-12-22 10:29 -0800
Re: Why We Imagine Aliens Look Like This The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-12-22 09:36 -0800
Re: Why We Imagine Aliens Look Like This Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-12-22 09:07 -0700
Re: Why We Imagine Aliens Look Like This Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-12-22 09:07 -0700
Re: Why We Imagine Aliens Look Like This Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-12-22 09:05 -0700
Re: Why We Imagine Aliens Look Like This Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-12-22 09:05 -0700
Gutless whining Re: Why We Imagine Aliens Look Like This Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2016-12-22 09:12 -0800
Re: Gutless whining Re: Why We Imagine Aliens Look Like This Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-12-22 09:32 -0700
Re: Why We Imagine Aliens Look Like This The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-12-22 09:20 -0800
Re: Why We Imagine Aliens Look Like This Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-12-22 09:33 -0700
Re: Why We Imagine Aliens Look Like This The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-12-22 13:43 -0800
Re: Why We Imagine Aliens Look Like This Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-12-22 14:04 -0700
Re: Why We Imagine Aliens Look Like This The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-12-21 18:29 -0800
Re: Why We Imagine Aliens Look Like This The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-12-22 23:08 -0800
Re: Why We Imagine Aliens Look Like This The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-12-23 09:37 -0800
Re: Why We Imagine Aliens Look Like This The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-12-23 20:35 -0800
Re: Why We Imagine Aliens Look Like This The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-12-23 20:59 -0800
Re: Why We Imagine Aliens Look Like This The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-12-24 10:28 -0800
Re: Why We Imagine Aliens Look Like This SteveGG <casagiannoni@optonline.net> - 2016-12-24 07:57 -0500
Re: Why We Imagine Aliens Look Like This Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2016-12-24 14:46 -0800
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Re: Why We Imagine Aliens Look Like This Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-12-26 03:45 -0800
Re: Why We Imagine Aliens Look Like This Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-12-26 22:22 -0800
Re: Why We Imagine Aliens Look Like This Chrysi Cat <chrysicat@gmail.com> - 2016-12-28 13:44 -0700
Re: Why We Imagine Aliens Look Like This Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-12-28 15:35 -0800
Re: Why We Imagine Aliens Look Like This Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-12-30 14:49 -0800
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