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| From | Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | sci.electronics.design |
| Subject | Re: 50 ohms to 0.02 ohm transformer |
| Date | 2016-11-10 03:28 +0000 |
| Organization | "JJ's own news server" |
| Message-ID | <o00ph5$j04$1@gonzo.alcatraz> (permalink) |
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On 2016-11-08, Lasse Langwadt Christensen <langwadt@fonz.dk> wrote: > Den torsdag den 3. november 2016 kl. 22.56.41 UTC+1 skrev amdx: >> On 11/3/2016 12:55 PM, John Larkin wrote: >> > On Thu, 3 Nov 2016 15:12:53 +0200, Tauno Voipio >> > <tauno.voipio@notused.fi.invalid> wrote: >> > >> >> On 3.11.16 14:55, amdx wrote: >> >>> I want to build a 50 ohm to 0.02 ohm transformer. >> >>> It needs a 50 to 1 turns ratio. >> >>> It takes a low A sub L core to make such a thing. >> >>> I have a toroid with an A sub L of 75. That only needs >> >>> 29 turns for my frequency of interest 500KHz to 1700kHz. >> >>> I also have some potcores that I could gap to lower the A sub L. >> >>> >> >>> What would make a better transformer a toroid or a gapped potcore? >> >>> >> >>> I plan 50 turns with a 1 turn secondary. >> >>> >> >>> What problems can I expect with a 1 turn secondary? >> >>> >> >>> Thanks, Mikek >> >> >> >> For a toroid, a turn is simple: A wire through the toroid >> >> hole is a turn, a wire outside is nothing. >> >> >> >> IMHO, your real problem is on the 20 milliohm side to make >> >> the circuit connections so that you're not going to lose all >> >> of your signal in the connection resistances and inductances. >> >> This is regardless which way you build your transformer. >> > >> > Leakage inductance can matter. >> > >> > It would be interesting to make a toroidal transformer where the >> > 1-turn winding wraps around the entire core. Visualize that! It can be >> > approximated by paralleling multiple 1t windings. >> > >> > http://www.spaceneedle.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/view-from-heli-250x211.jpg >> > >> > >> >> >> Hows this John, >> >> > https://www.dropbox.com/s/6klg2v2awamchb5/2001-12-31%2023.00.00-122.jpg?dl=0 >> >> > https://www.dropbox.com/s/3gmnukf4u7kawx3/2001-12-31%2023.00.00-120.jpg?dl=0 >> >> I haven't tested it yet. >> >> Mikek > > I wonder if it would be an advantage to split the ring opposite the > wire connection so it isn't a closed closed loop Probably not. My thoughts, this way if the 50 turns primary is progressive its parasitic single turn will see a shorted turn, thus improing EMI shielding. -- This email has not been checked by half-arsed antivirus software
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50 ohms to 0.02 ohm transformer amdx <nojunk@knology.net> - 2016-11-03 07:55 -0500
Re: 50 ohms to 0.02 ohm transformer Tauno Voipio <tauno.voipio@notused.fi.invalid> - 2016-11-03 15:12 +0200
Re: 50 ohms to 0.02 ohm transformer John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2016-11-03 10:55 -0700
Re: 50 ohms to 0.02 ohm transformer amdx <nojunk@knology.net> - 2016-11-03 16:56 -0500
Re: 50 ohms to 0.02 ohm transformer amdx <nojunk@knology.net> - 2016-11-03 20:36 -0500
Re: 50 ohms to 0.02 ohm transformer Syd Rumpo <usenet@nononono.co.uk> - 2016-11-08 23:35 +0000
Re: 50 ohms to 0.02 ohm transformer Lasse Langwadt Christensen <langwadt@fonz.dk> - 2016-11-08 15:51 -0800
Re: 50 ohms to 0.02 ohm transformer amdx <nojunk@knology.net> - 2016-11-08 21:45 -0600
Re: 50 ohms to 0.02 ohm transformer Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2016-11-10 03:28 +0000
Re: 50 ohms to 0.02 ohm transformer Tauno Voipio <tauno.voipio@notused.fi.invalid> - 2016-11-04 10:41 +0200
Re: 50 ohms to 0.02 ohm transformer Jeroen Belleman <jeroen@nospam.please> - 2016-11-04 10:54 +0100
Re: 50 ohms to 0.02 ohm transformer bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2016-11-04 06:00 -0700
Re: 50 ohms to 0.02 ohm transformer Jeroen Belleman <jeroen@nospam.please> - 2016-11-04 14:10 +0100
Re: 50 ohms to 0.02 ohm transformer John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2016-11-04 08:08 -0700
Re: 50 ohms to 0.02 ohm transformer "Tim Williams" <tiwill@seventransistorlabs.com> - 2016-11-04 22:13 -0500
Re: 50 ohms to 0.02 ohm transformer Jeroen Belleman <jeroen@nospam.please> - 2016-11-03 14:58 +0100
Re: 50 ohms to 0.02 ohm transformer amdx <nojunk@knology.net> - 2016-11-03 09:57 -0500
Re: 50 ohms to 0.02 ohm transformer amdx <nojunk@knology.net> - 2016-11-03 09:59 -0500
Re: 50 ohms to 0.02 ohm transformer Tim Wescott <seemywebsite@myfooter.really> - 2016-11-03 11:56 -0500
Re: 50 ohms to 0.02 ohm transformer amdx <nojunk@knology.net> - 2016-11-03 12:15 -0500
Re: 50 ohms to 0.02 ohm transformer Tauno Voipio <tauno.voipio@notused.fi.invalid> - 2016-11-03 19:37 +0200
Re: 50 ohms to 0.02 ohm transformer makolber@yahoo.com - 2016-11-03 10:49 -0700
Re: 50 ohms to 0.02 ohm transformer amdx <nojunk@knology.net> - 2016-11-03 13:19 -0500
Re: 50 ohms to 0.02 ohm transformer amdx <nojunk@knology.net> - 2016-11-03 13:31 -0500
Re: 50 ohms to 0.02 ohm transformer Tim Wescott <seemywebsite@myfooter.really> - 2016-11-03 14:38 -0500
Re: 50 ohms to 0.02 ohm transformer Tim Wescott <seemywebsite@myfooter.really> - 2016-11-03 14:39 -0500
Re: 50 ohms to 0.02 ohm transformer amdx <nojunk@knology.net> - 2016-11-03 16:52 -0500
Re: 50 ohms to 0.02 ohm transformer whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com> - 2016-11-03 18:00 -0700
Re: 50 ohms to 0.02 ohm transformer amdx <nojunk@knology.net> - 2016-11-04 06:26 -0500
Re: 50 ohms to 0.02 ohm transformer Tauno Voipio <tauno.voipio@notused.fi.invalid> - 2016-11-04 15:20 +0200
Re: 50 ohms to 0.02 ohm transformer amdx <nojunk@knology.net> - 2016-11-04 09:33 -0500
Re: 50 ohms to 0.02 ohm transformer Tauno Voipio <tauno.voipio@notused.fi.invalid> - 2016-11-04 21:21 +0200
Re: 50 ohms to 0.02 ohm transformer "tom" <tmiller11147@verizon.net> - 2016-11-03 14:02 -0400
Re: 50 ohms to 0.02 ohm transformer Winfield Hill <hill@rowland.harvard.edu> - 2016-11-03 10:25 -0700
Re: 50 ohms to 0.02 ohm transformer Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> - 2016-11-04 11:24 -0700
Re: 50 ohms to 0.02 ohm transformer Tauno Voipio <tauno.voipio@notused.fi.invalid> - 2016-11-04 21:24 +0200
Re: 50 ohms to 0.02 ohm transformer amdx <nojunk@knology.net> - 2016-11-04 16:46 -0500
Re: 50 ohms to 0.02 ohm transformer amdx <nojunk@knology.net> - 2016-11-05 12:37 -0500
Re: 50 ohms to 0.02 ohm transformer mike <ham789@netzero.net> - 2016-11-05 02:29 -0700
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