Re: PGP in forth ?

From	rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	comp.lang.forth
Subject	Re: PGP in forth ?
Date	2016-11-02 11:03 -0400
Organization	A noiseless patient Spider
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On 11/1/2016 11:38 AM, Cecil Bayona wrote:
> On 11/1/2016 6:44 AM, jim wrote:
>> In article <nv978n$7eb$1@dont-email.me>, rambamist@gmail.com says...
>>> in implementing it will almost certainly weaken the crypto-system.
>>
>> having it in forth would have been good and saved me some time in the
>> long
>> term as I could have used parts of it it for something else but it's
>> clear that's not
>> going to happen. I was just an option to work on an existing problem
>> is all.
>>
>> i am sensing a thread of horror in this group about the notion of writing
>> something "complex" in forth. I wonder why?
>>
> Because many persons here are not professional programmers but
> occasional dabblers in code , but they call themselves experts. As for
> myself I'm an advance dabbler although I've written quite a few complex
> Forth applications in the past and have some complex ones planned for
> the future.
>
> On ANS Forth I'm zero of an expert and don't intend to be, what is the
> point of supporting a standard that so ambiguous about so many issues.
> So in the "spirit of Forth" I do my own thing and not worry about
> standards. My two standards for Forth are MPE Forth for serious work and
> even dabbling, for FPGAs Forth CPUs I need a Forth that is lightweight
> and easily migrated to a new CPU so I use a special eForth version for
> that.

The purpose of a standard is not to resolve "ambiguity" with the 
internal workings that aren't important to portability.  It is to define 
a level of interface so that a standard program will work in a standard 
Forth system to allow portability across Forth systems.

You clearly have no reason to port your code across standard systems so 
you have no need for adhering to a standard, other than your own.

-- 

Rick C

Thread

PGP in forth ? jim <anon@example.com> - 2016-10-30 23:14 +0000
  Re: PGP in forth ? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-30 16:30 -0700
    Re: PGP in forth ? jim <anon@example.com> - 2016-10-31 11:10 +0000
      Re: PGP in forth ? hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-10-31 15:53 -0700
        Re: PGP in forth ? jim <anon@example.com> - 2016-10-31 23:24 +0000
          Re: PGP in forth ? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-31 16:34 -0700
            Re: PGP in forth ? jim <anon@example.com> - 2016-10-31 23:39 +0000
              Re: PGP in forth ? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-31 16:54 -0700
                Re: PGP in forth ? hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-10-31 17:36 -0700
                Re: PGP in forth ? hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-10-31 20:40 -0700
                Re: PGP in forth ? hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-10-31 23:12 -0700
                Re: PGP in forth ? jim <anon@example.com> - 2016-11-01 11:36 +0000
                Re: PGP in forth ? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2016-11-01 08:50 -0700
                Re: PGP in forth ? jim <anon@example.com> - 2016-11-01 16:51 +0000
          Re: PGP in forth ? hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-10-31 16:54 -0700
            Re: PGP in forth ? jim <anon@example.com> - 2016-11-01 11:18 +0000
              Re: PGP in forth ? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2016-11-01 09:12 -0700
      Re: PGP in forth ? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-31 16:18 -0700
        Re: PGP in forth ? jim <anon@example.com> - 2016-10-31 23:36 +0000
  Re: PGP in forth ? Manuel Rodriguez <aa5@gmx.net> - 2016-10-31 10:24 -0700
    Re: PGP in forth ? anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2016-10-31 17:55 +0000
      Re: PGP in forth ? hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-10-31 16:27 -0700
      Re: PGP in forth ? jim <anon@example.com> - 2016-10-31 23:26 +0000
        Re: PGP in forth ? Bernd Paysan <bernd@net2o.de> - 2016-11-04 14:16 +0000
    Re: PGP in forth ? jim <anon@example.com> - 2016-10-31 23:34 +0000
      Re: PGP in forth ? Andreas Wagner <andreas.wagner@lowfatcomputing.org> - 2016-10-31 21:22 -0700
      Re: PGP in forth ? Manuel Rodriguez <aa5@gmx.net> - 2016-11-01 03:01 -0700
  Re: PGP in forth ? Ron Aaron <rambamist@gmail.com> - 2016-11-01 06:56 +0200
    Re: PGP in forth ? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-31 22:28 -0700
      Re: PGP in forth ? Ron Aaron <rambamist@gmail.com> - 2016-11-01 08:26 +0200
        Re: PGP in forth ? jim <anon@example.com> - 2016-11-01 11:51 +0000
          Re: PGP in forth ? Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2016-11-01 10:49 -0500
      Re: PGP in forth ? jim <anon@example.com> - 2016-11-01 11:46 +0000
    Re: PGP in forth ? jim <anon@example.com> - 2016-11-01 11:44 +0000
      Re: PGP in forth ? Ron Aaron <rambamist@gmail.com> - 2016-11-01 14:00 +0200
        Re: PGP in forth ? albert@cherry.spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2016-11-01 13:49 +0100
          Re: PGP in forth ? Ron Aaron <rambamist@gmail.com> - 2016-11-01 15:11 +0200
        Re: PGP in forth ? Bugmagnet <bugmagnet@outlook.com> - 2016-11-02 11:20 +0800
          Re: PGP in forth ? Ron Aaron <rambamist@gmail.com> - 2016-11-02 06:51 +0200
      Re: PGP in forth ? Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2016-11-01 10:38 -0500
        Re: PGP in forth ? Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2016-11-02 03:45 -0500
          Re: PGP in forth ? "Robert L." <No_spamming@noWhere_7073.org> - 2017-01-03 17:25 +0000
        Re: PGP in forth ? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2016-11-02 11:03 -0400
  Re: PGP in forth ? lehs <skydda.barnen@gmail.com> - 2017-01-05 18:39 -0800
    Re: PGP in forth ? albert@cherry.spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2017-01-06 13:25 +0100
      Re: PGP in forth ? lehs <skydda.barnen@gmail.com> - 2017-01-06 05:07 -0800
        Re: PGP in forth ? albert@cherry.spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2017-01-06 17:29 +0100
      Re: PGP in forth ? albert@cherry.spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2017-01-07 11:56 +0100
        Re: PGP in forth ? lehs <skydda.barnen@gmail.com> - 2017-01-07 13:08 -0800
          Re: PGP in forth ? albert@cherry.spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2017-01-08 01:28 +0100
            Re: PGP in forth ? lehs <skydda.barnen@gmail.com> - 2017-01-08 00:30 -0800

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