Re: Did Nikola Tesla invented the Quantum computer?

From	Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com>
Newsgroups	comp.lang.forth
Subject	Re: Did Nikola Tesla invented the Quantum computer?
Date	2016-10-23 11:18 -0500
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On 10/23/2016 6:58 AM, Mark Wills wrote:
> On Friday, 21 October 2016 03:17:57 UTC+1, polymorph self  wrote:
>> On Thursday, October 20, 2016 at 7:18:57 PM UTC-4, rickman wrote:
>>> On 10/18/2016 8:31 AM, Mark Wills wrote:
>>>> On Tuesday, 18 October 2016 05:38:19 UTC+1, polymorph self  wrote:
>>>>> On Monday, October 17, 2016 at 8:49:38 PM UTC-4, rickman wrote:
>>>>>> On 10/17/2016 8:23 PM, hughaguilar96@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>> On Sunday, October 16, 2016 at 6:14:02 PM UTC-7, Bernd Paysan wrote:
>>>>>>>> Thus Tesla based his work on (back then) very recent theories and
>>>>>>>> discoveries, and of course a lot of people didn't understand
>>>>>>>> anything. He was a genius in practical engineering, but the theory
>>>>>>>> was already there, and tested: he just applied that theory.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is typical Bernd Paysan --- belittles everybody's work --- Tesla
>>>>>>> actually made significant contributions to people's understanding of
>>>>>>> electricity, especially in regard to alternating current.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> AC is used to cancel out inductance,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What???  Ok, your license to even discuss science has been revoked!!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> allowing electricity to be transported long
>>>>>>> distances, although we still lose something like 1/3 of the energy
>>>>>>> generated in our power plants.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> AC vs. DC has nothing to do with canceling inductance or whatever else
>>>>>> your mind is thinking.  It is the simple fact that with AC it is easy to
>>>>>> change the voltage and therefore current while this is not so easy in
>>>>>> DC.  AC uses transformers (notice the name?) to transform lower voltage
>>>>>> AC to higher voltage AC and back again.  The advantage is that at a
>>>>>> higher voltage the resistive losses are lower because of the lower
>>>>>> current.  AC has its own set of problem but they are easier to work
>>>>>> with... until recently.  Now that practical circuits to transform DC
>>>>>> voltages exist high voltage DC power lines have become a reality.  I
>>>>>> have not read up on it to see what the advantages and disadvantages are,
>>>>>> but they are being used.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Our "understanding" of electricity could better be desribed as
>>>>>>> "familiarity" with electricity --- nobody actually knows how
>>>>>>> electricity works --- inductance is a big WTF for any student of
>>>>>>> electricity (the analogy about water flowing through a pipe is okay
>>>>>>> for resistance and current, but not for inductance).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Lol, you must have flunked physics.  A simple mechanical system of a
>>>>>> mass, spring and a damper use exactly the same equations to describe the
>>>>>> motion as the voltage in an AC circuit with inductance, capacitance and
>>>>>> resistance.  This is actually a good analogy to learn from.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I read one physicist who said that reality is actually nothing like
>>>>>>> the physical world that we experience with our sight, hearing and
>>>>>>> touch. We don't know what reality is like --- we don't even know what
>>>>>>> it would be like to know what it is like.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yeah, people say all sorts of stuff.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rick C
>>>>>
>>>>> USA should go 100% atomic power,
>>>>> 0 emissions
>>>>> 0 need for anything but thorium, which we have 100,000 year of and throw awya now
>>>>> export all who disagree to china
>>>>
>>>> 0 emissions?
>>>>
>>>> So what is the spent nuclear fuel?
>>>
>>> Yes, even thorium reactors have spent fuel, just less than a uranium
>>> reactor.  So thorium may be better than uranium, but it's still a
>>> radiation source and not a perfect energy source.
>>>
>>> Maybe someone here should get interested in the energy generator of
>>> Andrea Rossi?  Absolutely no emissions other than heat.  Unfortunately
>>> no energy production other than what is put into it, but nothing is
>>> perfect, eh?
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Rick C
>>
>> no thorium is the answer
>> see here
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYa4GnW4zR0
>
> Thorium is the answer, I agree. But it has still has nuclear waste
> disposal problems.
>
> One good thing about it is that it can consume spent uranium.
> The REALLY good thing about it is its waste products CANNOT be used
> to make bombs, which was the ENTIRE point of the nuclear energy frenzy
> of the 50s. That they produced "nearly free" clean energy for the population
> was a mere selling point to the public.
>
Nearly free is a joke, but by the time they get the juice to your house, 
so much money will have been spent on safety factors and pay off old 
debts that it will be no cheaper than fossil fuels. In my area the 
Electric Co. was bought by a larger concern, the first item of business 
was to raise the rates to pay for a nuclear reactor that was shutdown in 
Louisiana that never served a watt of Electricity to our area or 
anyone's area since it never started fully operating. The same thing 
would happen with Thorium reactors.

In a strange science fiction book I read a long time ago dealt with 
beings from an alternate universe and one of the things that was going 
on was that they would exchange Tungsten in out Universe with Thorium, 
to them Tungsten was a radioactive material used to generate energy and 
food and Thorium was a totally inert material in their Universe.  But 
there was no such thing as a free lunch, the outcome would be the 
merging of the Universes if the process continued, but of course the 
ruling authorities didn't see it that way.

-- 
Cecil - k5nwa

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  Re: Did Nikola Tesla invented the Quantum computer? albert@cherry.spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2016-10-16 15:05 +0200
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