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| From | djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) |
| Subject | Re: Multiple Fonts for TIL was Re: Complete Collected Stories of [Author] ? |
| Message-ID | <nu1tus.1wvz@kithrup.com> (permalink) |
| Date | 2015-09-02 12:11 +0000 |
| References | <puaivu0aeirmfr8or3q64fjkrrdifflsb9@4ax.com> <2a585800-b4f1-4f7d-a771-9d775492815c@googlegroups.com> <nu144E.AtG@kithrup.com> <MPG.30508ba39dab051f989afe@news.eternal-september.org> |
| Organization | Kithrup Enterprises, Ld. |
In article <MPG.30508ba39dab051f989afe@news.eternal-september.org>, J. Clarke <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote: >In article <nu144E.AtG@kithrup.com>, djheydt@kithrup.com says... >> >> In article <2a585800-b4f1-4f7d-a771-9d775492815c@googlegroups.com>, >> Moriarty <blues95@ivillage.com> wrote: >> >On Wednesday, September 2, 2015 at 9:30:03 AM UTC+10, Dorothy J Heydt wrote: >> >> In article <ee866380-8d30-4689-9075-d908803afbf3@googlegroups.com>, >> >> Moriarty <blues95@ivillage.com> wrote: >> >> >On Wednesday, September 2, 2015 at 4:30:04 AM UTC+10, Dorothy J >Heydt wrote: >> >> >> In article <MRlFx.4596$tS.1181@fx07.iad>, >> >> >> Scott Lurndal <slp53@pacbell.net> wrote: >> >> >> >djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) writes: >> >> >> >>Well, I got Hal to say "Send me the links and I'll look at them." >> >> >> >>So I went through my entire file of suggestions people have made, >> >> >> >>and after discarding all the stuff about what Kindle will and >> >> >> >>won't do, and all the "I can't read [format] on my [device]," I >> >> >> >>found I have only two actual links, viz., >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>http://epubzone.org/news/epub-3-font-embedding-and-licensing >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>(which looks as though it's a subsection on the legal uses of >> >> >> >>epub, rather than a basic introduction), and >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>http://manual.calibre-ebook.com/faq.html >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>which looks as if it may not be about epub at all, but something >> >> >> >>else. >> >> >> > >> >> >> >calibre is a PC-based e-book reader and conversion utility which uses >> >> >> >EPUB as it's primary format choice. >> >> >> > >> >> >> >An EPUB is a container (zip) which contains a set of HTML files and >> >> >> >cascading style sheets that are applied to the HTML files for >> >> >> >formatting. Each chapter is generally a single HTML file and there >> >> >> >are other HTML files handling frontmatter, ToC, indicies, maps, et >> >> >> >alia. EPUB is an ISO standard (ISO/IEC TS 30135) and the links to >> >> >> >the standard document are present in the wiki page for EPUB: >> >> >> > >> >> >> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EPUB >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Here are instructions for converting an RTF/DOC to EPUB using >> >> >> >calibre. >> >> >> > >> >> >> >http://www.epubli.co.uk/instruction/ebook/convert/calibre >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Calibre for windows can be found here: >> >> >> > >> >> >> > http://calibre-ebook.com/download_windows >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> OK, I've copied everything you said and sent it to Hal. Thank >> >> >> you. That thundering sound you hear is everything you said going >> >> >> over my head so fast it makes sonic booms, but maybe it will make >> >> >> sense to him. >> >> >> >> >> >> Stay tuned.... >> >> > >> >> >I've read "The Interior Life" so I know what you're trying to do with >> >> >the fonts. If you like, e-mail the rtf file to me and I'll convert it >> >> >to epub and a bunch of other formats and see what it looks like. >> >> > >> >> >fifthwave at live dot com dot au >> >> >> >> Will do! It's just a couple of paragraphs. I tried to get (from >> >> the limited fonts on my word processor, most of which are >> >> sans-serif and look much too much alike); but if you can tell >> >> there are three fonts, then translate them into whatever you like >> >> and see if they work. >> > >> >Success! I copied the text you sent me into a word doc and used 'Save >> >As' to save it as an htm file, (because that's what calibre told me to >> >do, it didn't want to touch rtf for some reason). >> > >> >Then I imported it into calibre and converted it to mobi, epub and azw3 >> >formats. I made sure the 'Embed referenced fonts' box was ticked, >> >otherwise the fonts wouldn't have been preserved. >> > >> >The epub and azw3 versions supported your fonts, the mobi version >> >didn't. I was kind of expecting that to happen. >> > >> >Then I copied the azw3 version onto my kindle and it was perfectly >> >readable, but ONLY once I'd set the 'Publisher Font' option to ON. >> >> Thanks for your efforts, and the info! I'm not very sanguine >> about going with Kindle anyhow. >> >> Next question: does epub have a library of fonts of its own, so >> that I could select some fonts that are clearly distinct to the >> eye of a reader who is not a typography maven? >> > >> >I've only got a kindle, so can't test the epub version on a nook or kobo >> >or whatnot, but I'd guess it would be easier than the kindle was as that >> >last 'Publisher Font' step probably wouldn't be required. >> > >> >If you go ahead with it, I'd suggest you don't use Candara and Times New >> >Roman, they're too similar and the changes are hard to make out. Vijava >> >was fine. >> >> Well, I tried. Candara is sans-serif and Times is serif'd, and >> practically every other font in the OpenOffice library is >> sans-serif too and they look way too alike to me. >> >> One of the things Hal has said he'd do is to look online for some >> more interesting fonts. Way back in the day of Word 2.0 there >> was a font called Tolkien that looked like lovely Carolingian >> half-uncials. I'd love to have something like that for font 2. > ><https://www.google.com/fonts> provides a range of optiona, all provided >as open source. > ><http://www.1001freefonts.com/> has a large collection--note on the >right above the "download" butten the licensing is briefly stated. Don't >take their word for "free" though--click the font and you should get an >expanded page with a link to the publisher at or near the bottom--you >can go there and check the details of the licensing. Also note that >some of the publishers are individuals doing it for personal reasons and >might have suggestions if you explain to them what you are trying to do. > ><http://www.1001fonts.com/> (different from above) also has a large >collection and allows display of only those that are free for commercial >use (click the price tag with a dollar sign on it next to the "your text >here" box). Again read the details though. > >While it's possible to download the Tolkien font (google "Tolkien >Regular"), it is copyrighted, not licensed for redistribution, and the >publisher seems to be defunct so there's no way to license it. > >Note--be careful about _any_ font you use--the ones that come with word >processors and the like are typically not licensed for redistribution, >which includes embedding in a document. I doubt anybody who would do >that is going to notice you and come after you but it can happen. > Very useful information, thank you. I'll send this to Hal too. -- Dorothy J. Heydt Vallejo, California djheydt at gmail dot com Should you wish to email me, you'd better use the gmail edress. Kithrup's all spammy and hotmail's been hacked.
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