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Re: Why do you guys use Linux?

From Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject Re: Why do you guys use Linux?
Date 2016-10-12 16:12 -0400
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On 2016-10-12 3:50 PM, Marek Novotny wrote:
> On 2016-10-12, Silver Slimer <> wrote:
>> 
>> On 2016-10-12 12:27 PM, Marek Novotny wrote:
>>> On 2016-10-12, Silver Slimer <> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> On 2016-10-12 12:04 PM, Marek Novotny wrote:
>>>>> On 2016-10-12, Silver Slimer <> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 2016-10-12 10:11 AM, Marek Novotny wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2016-10-12, Silver Slimer <> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 2016-10-12 5:10 AM, Alexander Suvorov wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Hello, Silver Slimer. On 10/12/16 2:05 AM you 
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> "The indicated OS X usage for May was 3.67% 
>>>>>>>>>>>> and Windows was at 95.39%. " Gee, I wonder 
>>>>>>>>>>>> where the developers will go.
>>>>>>>>>>> Where indeed?? If they make it simple to cross 
>>>>>>>>>>> develop, what's the problem? And what did you 
>>>>>>>>>>> expect at this early stage? A runaway success 
>>>>>>>>>>> that smashes Windows right off the bat?
>>>>>>>>>> The only hope for Linux (and the Mac,
>>>>>>>>>> ironically) is if the Vulkan development platform
>>>>>>>>>> becomes popular. As it is, companies seem to
>>>>>>>>>> prefer DirectX which makes porting a difficult
>>>>>>>>>> process. If, however, they consider their options
>>>>>>>>>> and realize how much smarter using Vulkan would
>>>>>>>>>> be, then Linux might actually have a chance to
>>>>>>>>>> get gaming users and therefore to become a much
>>>>>>>>>> more viable platform for whichever developer
>>>>>>>>>> resists at first. It won't happen though. I've
>>>>>>>>>> already seen Mantle fail in a short period of
>>>>>>>>>> time so there's no reason to believe Vulkan will
>>>>>>>>>> fare better. Besides, Linux doesn't do its users
>>>>>>>>>> many favours in having certain things not work in
>>>>>>>>>> one version and then working again in the next
>>>>>>>>>> only to become completely non-functional in the
>>>>>>>>>> one after that. That's how Ubuntu seems to work
>>>>>>>>>> at least.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Again. I just don't get it, guys. As an Ubuntu
>>>>>>>>> user (and a gaming one, btw) I wonder what is it
>>>>>>>>> you all talking about that shouldn't work?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Import a GPG key into Seahorse. Let me know how well 
>>>>>>>> it works.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> So use your head and switch to Thunderbird...
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Except that using Seahorse and importing your key there 
>>>>>> allows it to be available in all applications that 
>>>>>> support GPG including Evolution which syncs beautifully 
>>>>>> (and natively) with Google Calendar. You're essentially 
>>>>>> reducing functionality (unwillingly) because the 
>>>>>> open-source guys can't get their act together.
>>>>> 
>>>>> You can't use Google Calendar in Thunderbird??? Could have 
>>>>> fooled me.
>>>> 
>>>> Notice the use of the word _natively_ . With Thunderbird, you
>>>> can do so but require a plug-in.
>>> 
>>> So Thunderbird has an architecture to NATIVELY support Plugins,
>>> one of which is LIGHTNING, which supports Google Calendar. So,
>>> Slimer, what's the problem?
>> 
>> Outlook 2013 also supports GnuPG through plug-ins but nobody is 
>> dumb enough to claim that it _natively_ supports GnuPG. You can 
>> move goal posts all you want but you know what I wrote and you 
>> know that I'm right
> 
> You're not right. Thunderbird by extension supports Google
> Calendar and GnuPG. So once again, you're just making bullshit up.
> I have teh functionality you claim I don't right in thunderbird.
> Fact: I run Thunderbird and I have access to my google calendar and
> GnuPG. I do not need Evolution.

Wow, you've turned into your own version of Peter haven't you?

I never claimed that Thunderbird couldn't add the functionality
through a plug-in, I claimed that Evolution had it built-in which was
an advantage for me. Evolution uses whatever key is imported into
Seahorse (or a similar key manager) and has built-in GnuPG and Google
Calendar support whereas Thunderbird requires you to _add_ the
functionality through a plug-in. The fact that Thunderbird ends up
with its own key manager and only supports GnuPG if you add Enigmail
makes it less interesting to me than an application which already has
it because the latter ends up implementing it better. I still often
have to press CTRL-Enter twice to post a message to a newsgroup
because the plug-in keeps telling me that "encryption failed" even if
I didn't encrypt.

Hell, it just happened again now "Send operation aborted.

Error - encryption command failed" but it will suddenly work if I
press CTRL-Enter again.

- -- 
Silver Slimer
Islam is a disease
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Why do you guys use Linux? ebinsageman@gmail.com - 2016-10-10 15:40 -0700
  Re: Why do you guys use Linux? Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-10 18:54 -0400
    Re: Why do you guys use Linux? ebinsageman@gmail.com - 2016-10-10 16:09 -0700
      Re: Why do you guys use Linux? Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-10 19:26 -0400
        Re: Why do you guys use Linux? ebinsageman@gmail.com - 2016-10-10 16:58 -0700
          Re: Why do you guys use Linux? Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-11 09:10 -0400
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          Re: Why do you guys use Linux? Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-11 09:13 -0400
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          Re: Why do you guys use Linux? chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-11 07:09 -0500
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