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Re: Why do you guys use Linux?

From Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject Re: Why do you guys use Linux?
Date 2016-10-11 16:21 -0400
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On 2016-10-11 12:41 PM, Steve Carroll wrote:
> On Tuesday, October 11, 2016 at 9:39:39 AM UTC-6, Silver Slimer
> wrote:
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>> On 2016-10-11 11:29 AM, Steve Carroll wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, October 11, 2016 at 9:19:19 AM UTC-6, Marek
>>> Novotny wrote:
>>>> On 2016-10-11, Silver Slimer <> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> // snip
>>>> 
>>>>> No company is hiring to produce Linux software other than 
>>>>> RedHat as far as I can tell since there is no money to be
>>>>> made selling such stuff on the platform.
>>>> 
>>>> Incorrect. Any distribution that pays any employee is
>>>> producing software for Linux. If you're hired by Canonical to
>>>> work on Ubuntu, you're a paid Linux software developer.
>>>> 
>>>> Does intel pay their kernel developers? Of course they do.
>>>> That's a paid Linux developer. And just look at the top 20
>>>> contributors. Even Microsoft has paid Linux developers. They
>>>> too contribute to the Linux kernel. What about the people
>>>> working on bring the Linux environment to Microsoft windows?
>>>> They are not Linux software developers? Of course they are.
>>> 
>>> The arstechnica.com site recently published an article
>>> entitled:
>>> 
>>> "Google and Samsung soar into list of top 10 Linux
>>> contributors." "And Microsoft's days of major Linux
>>> contributions have come to a halt."
>> 
>> Samsung's contributions have made it possible for the kernel to
>> explode.
>> 
>>> I knew it was big and getting bigger but this line really stuck
>>> out to me:
>>> 
>>> "Most Linux developers contribute to the kernel as part of
>>> their employment."
>>> 
>>> <http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/09/google-and-sa
ms
>>
>>> 
ung-soar-into-list-of-top-10-linux-contributors/>
>> 
>> By
>>> 
>> the way, I'm sure you noticed that in my original post, I wrote 
>> "since there is no money to be made selling such stuff on the 
>> platform."
> 
> I didn't see it, sorry. I only posted it because of your other
> claim, which clearly isn't true... even if it was made as a
> followup to the context you suggest.
> 
>> Every single person who has responded to my claim has mentioned
>> that there are employees contributing to the kernel but not one
>> said a thing about the fact that programmers can't make money 
>> producing software ON the platform. None of what I said referred
>> to the kernel. Of course _hardware_ manufacturers will pay people
>> to customize the kernel for whatever device they're selling but
>> where are the third-parties making millions with Linux software?
> 
> You'd still be wrong, people pay for other customizations, too
> (plugins to extant Linux software) and people commission
> programmers to write desktop Linux software for custom use. This
> market is enormous and varied to the extent that it can't be
> tracked well. No corporation would be paying people to write Linux
> code if there hadn't already been an established base of solid
> activity around it. As for commercial endeavors, there's not as
> much, relatively speaking (to other platforms) but it seems the
> money is in support anyway and this is true outside of the Linux
> market. That commercial desktop Linux software isn't doing well has
> as much, if not more, to do with the desktop market itself. So if
> what you mean by "ON" only focuses on commercial Linux desktop,
> there is less money, but not *no* money, the bigger money is
> elsewhere,  just like it is outside of the Linux market. This
> industry isn't what it once was and anyone who believes it will be
> revived at some point needs to understand the changes that have
> taken place. I think this guy is more right than wrong:
> 
> <http://www.forbes.com/sites/adamhartung/2016/04/15/pc-sales-in-q1-dro
p-more-than-10-are-you-surprised-do-you-care/#5d5e9a922a8d>

Thanks
> 
for the article and frankly, I have no choice but to agree with
the guy.


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  Re: Why do you guys use Linux? Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-10 18:54 -0400
    Re: Why do you guys use Linux? ebinsageman@gmail.com - 2016-10-10 16:09 -0700
      Re: Why do you guys use Linux? Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-10 19:26 -0400
        Re: Why do you guys use Linux? ebinsageman@gmail.com - 2016-10-10 16:58 -0700
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            Re: Why do you guys use Linux? Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-11 13:44 +0000
            Re: Why do you guys use Linux? Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-10-11 11:19 -0400
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                Re: Why do you guys use Linux? Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-12 15:37 -0400
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                Re: Why do you guys use Linux? Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-12 11:54 -0400
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                Re: Why do you guys use Linux? Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-12 12:15 -0400
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                Re: Why do you guys use Linux? Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-12 16:46 -0400
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                Re: Why do you guys use Linux? ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-10-12 20:19 +0000
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                Re: Why do you guys use Linux? Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-10-12 23:25 +0200
                Re: Why do you guys use Linux? William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2016-10-11 23:15 +0100
                Re: Why do you guys use Linux? Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-11 11:39 -0400
                Re: Why do you guys use Linux? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-10-11 09:41 -0700
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          Re: Why do you guys use Linux? chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-11 07:09 -0500
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          Re: Why do you guys use Linux? Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-11 09:20 -0400
    Re: Why do you guys use Linux? Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-11 00:07 +0000
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          Re: Why do you guys use Linux? GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-10-10 22:07 -0600
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    Re: Why do you guys use Linux? GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-10-10 22:07 -0600
    Re: Why do you guys use Linux? chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-11 07:37 -0500
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  Why do you guys use Linux? Alexander Suvorov <axr.suvorov@yandex.ru> - 2016-10-11 17:50 +0300
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