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Re: Why I use gcc

From BartC <bc@freeuk.com>
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Subject Re: Why I use gcc
Date 2016-10-11 10:56 +0100
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On 11/10/2016 03:09, Robert Wessel wrote:
> On Mon, 10 Oct 2016 16:17:24 +0100, Richard Heathfield

>> I'm not sure what "fiddly" means in this context, but I can tell you
>> what its opposite is:
>>
>>   make

> BartC has managed to install a non-standard distribution of MSVC (one
> intended for the internal use of another product), rather than a
> complete/normal installation.  For some odd reason it doesn't work all
> that well as a stand-alone product.
>

If I could find a standalone cl.exe and associated set of support files 
that could be downloaded then I would have used it. But somehow I don't 
think it would have been any better:

On 10/10/2016 15:32, already5chosen@yahoo.com wrote:

 > Invocation part [of MSVC] was trivial, as expected, as long as my
 > utility was invoked in proper environment. In specific case of MSVC
 > compiler "proper environment" was VS2013 x64 Native Tools Command
 > Prompt.

We're talking about a program that translates one input file to an 
output file. It's the simplest possible kind of application. What 
'proper environment' is necessary?

Anyway it eventually worked - within its 'special environment'. But 
that's OK for a one-off test after also testing with 5 or 6 other compilers.

It's incredible however that a version of MSVC-2008 intended for 
compiling CPython has managed to compile 28000 lines of C that is 
nothing to do with Python. (It just needed a tweak as it didn't 
recognise 'stdint.h')

(Compiling with /O2 for speed, MSVC-2008 produces an executable that is 
little faster than my own native-code compiler. And I'm targeting x64 
which has a 5% performance penalty compared with the 32-bit x86 which is 
this MSVC's target.

Mine however doesn't need a special 'native environment', and can still 
fit on a floppy disk without compression. /This/ is why I can criticise 
C compilers if I want.)

-- 
Bartc

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Why I use gcc BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-09-26 14:31 +0100
  Re: Why I use gcc David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2016-09-26 15:45 +0200
    Re: Why I use gcc BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-09-26 15:22 +0100
      Re: Why I use gcc David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2016-09-26 16:31 +0200
      Re: Why I use gcc Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2016-09-27 15:05 -0700
        Re: Why I use gcc BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-09-28 00:42 +0100
          Re: Why I use gcc Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2016-09-28 09:50 -0700
            Re: Why I use gcc BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-09-28 18:39 +0100
              Re: Why I use gcc BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-10-07 12:28 +0100
                Re: Why I use gcc Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2016-10-07 04:36 -0700
              Re: Why I use gcc Thiago Adams <thiago.adams@gmail.com> - 2016-10-07 05:31 -0700
                Re: Why I use gcc BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-10-07 14:00 +0100
                Re: Why I use gcc Thiago Adams <thiago.adams@gmail.com> - 2016-10-07 07:48 -0700
                Re: Why I use gcc BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-10-07 17:36 +0100
                Re: Why I use gcc Thiago Adams <thiago.adams@gmail.com> - 2016-10-07 10:38 -0700
                Re: Why I use gcc BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-10-07 19:47 +0100
                Re: Why I use gcc Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2016-10-07 12:25 -0700
                Re: Why I use gcc Thiago Adams <thiago.adams@gmail.com> - 2016-10-07 12:26 -0700
                Re: Why I use gcc Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2016-10-07 13:10 -0700
                Re: Why I use gcc Thiago Adams <thiago.adams@gmail.com> - 2016-10-07 13:22 -0700
                Re: Why I use gcc Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2016-10-07 14:13 -0700
                Re: Why I use gcc BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-10-08 01:15 +0100
                Re: Why I use gcc James Harris <james.harris.1@gmail.com> - 2016-10-08 10:42 +0100
                Re: Why I use gcc BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-10-08 11:36 +0100
                Re: Why I use gcc Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2016-10-08 14:25 +0100
                Re: Why I use gcc BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-10-08 15:05 +0100
                Re: Why I use gcc BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-10-08 16:29 +0100
                Re: Why I use gcc Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2016-10-08 17:21 +0100
                Re: Why I use gcc Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2016-10-08 16:39 +0100
                Re: Why I use gcc BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-10-08 16:58 +0100
                Re: Why I use gcc Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2016-10-08 21:15 +0100
                Re: Why I use gcc supercat@casperkitty.com - 2016-10-08 11:27 -0700
                Re: Why I use gcc BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-10-08 20:09 +0100
                Re: Why I use gcc Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2016-10-08 21:16 +0100
                Re: Why I use gcc BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-10-08 21:28 +0100
                Re: Why I use gcc Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2016-10-09 01:19 +0100
                Re: Why I use gcc BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-10-09 01:36 +0100
                Re: Why I use gcc Thiago Adams <thiago.adams@gmail.com> - 2016-10-08 09:32 -0700
                Re: Why I use gcc Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2016-10-09 03:44 -0700
                Re: Why I use gcc BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-10-09 12:07 +0100
                Re: Why I use gcc Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2016-10-09 12:12 +0100
                Re: Why I use gcc BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-10-09 12:37 +0100
                Re: Why I use gcc Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2016-10-09 13:57 +0100
                Re: Why I use gcc BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-10-09 14:32 +0100
                Re: Why I use gcc Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2016-10-09 20:00 +0100
                Re: Why I use gcc Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2016-10-09 13:14 -0700
                Re: Why I use gcc BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-10-09 22:54 +0100
                Re: Why I use gcc Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2016-10-15 14:40 -0700
                Re: Why I use gcc James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2016-10-07 10:37 -0400
                Re: Why I use gcc supercat@casperkitty.com - 2016-10-07 07:52 -0700
                Re: Why I use gcc jameskuyper@verizon.net - 2016-10-07 09:10 -0700
                Re: Why I use gcc supercat@casperkitty.com - 2016-10-07 10:48 -0700
                Re: Why I use gcc jameskuyper@verizon.net - 2016-10-07 16:21 -0700
                Re: Why I use gcc supercat@casperkitty.com - 2016-10-08 11:15 -0700
                Re: Why I use gcc BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-10-07 17:12 +0100
                Re: Why I use gcc Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2016-10-07 12:20 -0700
                Re: Why I use gcc Thiago Adams <thiago.adams@gmail.com> - 2016-10-07 12:32 -0700
  Re: Why I use gcc Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-09-26 14:45 +0100
    Re: Why I use gcc BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-09-26 15:12 +0100
      Re: Why I use gcc Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-09-26 15:26 +0100
        Re: Why I use gcc supercat@casperkitty.com - 2016-09-26 08:00 -0700
          Re: Why I use gcc Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2016-09-28 10:49 -0700
        Re: Why I use gcc BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-09-26 17:30 +0100
          Re: Why I use gcc David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2016-09-26 21:12 +0200
            Re: Why I use gcc jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2016-09-26 22:09 +0200
            Re: Why I use gcc supercat@casperkitty.com - 2016-09-26 13:32 -0700
              Re: Why I use gcc jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2016-09-26 23:14 +0200
                Re: Why I use gcc Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-09-26 22:47 +0100
                Re: Why I use gcc BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-09-27 01:13 +0100
                Re: Why I use gcc Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-09-27 01:18 +0100
                Re: Why I use gcc Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2016-09-26 17:41 -0700
                Re: Why I use gcc BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-09-27 02:01 +0100
                Re: Why I use gcc Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2016-09-27 08:41 -0700
                Re: Why I use gcc James Harris <james.harris.1@gmail.com> - 2016-09-27 01:41 +0100
                Re: Why I use gcc jameskuyper@verizon.net - 2016-09-26 18:15 -0700
                Re: Why I use gcc Gareth Owen <gwowen@gmail.com> - 2016-09-27 20:59 +0100
                Re: Why I use gcc Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-09-27 21:50 +0100
                Re: Why I use gcc Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2016-09-28 06:26 -0700
                Re: Why I use gcc gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2016-09-27 23:23 +0000
                Re: Why I use gcc Noob <root@127.0.0.1> - 2016-10-08 00:12 +0200
                Re: Why I use gcc James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2016-10-07 23:11 -0400
                Re: Why I use gcc BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-10-08 10:58 +0100
                Re: Why I use gcc jameskuyper@verizon.net - 2016-10-08 07:07 -0700
                Re: Why I use gcc Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2016-10-07 21:44 -0700
              Re: Why I use gcc David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2016-09-27 09:48 +0200
                Re: Why I use gcc BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-09-27 11:22 +0100
                Re: Why I use gcc David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2016-09-27 13:52 +0200
                Re: Why I use gcc jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2016-09-27 14:47 +0200
                Re: Why I use gcc David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2016-09-27 15:18 +0200
                Re: Why I use gcc BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-09-27 14:38 +0100
                Re: Why I use gcc jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2016-09-27 17:21 +0200
                Re: Why I use gcc jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2016-09-27 17:17 +0200
                Re: Why I use gcc Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2016-09-27 08:52 -0700
                Re: Why I use gcc Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2016-09-30 02:00 -0500
                Re: Why I use gcc supercat@casperkitty.com - 2016-09-27 07:18 -0700
                Re: Why I use gcc Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2016-09-27 08:46 -0700
                Re: Why I use gcc supercat@casperkitty.com - 2016-09-27 09:11 -0700
                Re: Why I use gcc Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2016-09-27 13:33 +0100
                Re: Why I use gcc BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-09-27 14:13 +0100
                Re: Why I use gcc Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2016-09-27 15:30 +0100
                Re: Why I use gcc supercat@casperkitty.com - 2016-09-27 08:29 -0700
                Re: Why I use gcc supercat@casperkitty.com - 2016-09-27 07:11 -0700
            Re: Why I use gcc BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-09-26 21:43 +0100
            Re: Why I use gcc raltbos@xs4all.nl (Richard Bos) - 2016-09-30 17:50 +0000
          Re: Why I use gcc BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-09-27 01:04 +0100
            Re: Why I use gcc Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2016-09-26 17:39 -0700
              Re: Why I use gcc BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-09-27 01:49 +0100
                Re: Why I use gcc Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2016-09-27 11:39 +0100
                Re: Why I use gcc BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-09-27 11:56 +0100
                Re: Why I use gcc Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2016-09-27 15:15 -0700
                Re: Why I use gcc David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2016-09-28 08:55 +0200
    Re: Why I use gcc jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2016-09-26 22:11 +0200
      Re: Why I use gcc Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-09-26 22:04 +0100
  Re: Why I use gcc BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-10-10 11:39 +0100
    Re: Why I use gcc already5chosen@yahoo.com - 2016-10-10 07:32 -0700
      Re: Why I use gcc Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-10-10 16:17 +0100
        Re: Why I use gcc Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2016-10-10 21:09 -0500
          Re: Why I use gcc Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-10-11 04:18 +0100
          Re: Why I use gcc BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-10-11 10:56 +0100
            Re: Why I use gcc already5chosen@yahoo.com - 2016-10-11 04:08 -0700
              Re: Why I use gcc BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-10-11 13:36 +0100
                Re: Why I use gcc already5chosen@yahoo.com - 2016-10-11 06:20 -0700
                Re: Why I use gcc BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-10-11 14:29 +0100
                Re: Why I use gcc Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2016-10-11 09:31 -0700
                Re: Why I use gcc BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-10-11 19:38 +0100
                Re: Why I use gcc supercat@casperkitty.com - 2016-10-11 12:23 -0700
                Re: Why I use gcc jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2016-10-11 23:19 +0200
                Re: Why I use gcc BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-10-11 23:26 +0100
                Re: Why I use gcc jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2016-10-12 09:01 +0200
                Re: Why I use gcc supercat@casperkitty.com - 2016-10-12 08:55 -0700
                Re: Why I use gcc already5chosen@yahoo.com - 2016-10-12 10:52 -0700
                Re: Why I use gcc supercat@casperkitty.com - 2016-10-12 12:34 -0700
                Re: Why I use gcc Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2016-10-12 13:18 -0700
                Re: Why I use gcc luser droog <luser.droog@gmail.com> - 2016-10-12 13:24 -0700
                Re: Why I use gcc crankypuss <undisclosedUserid@gmail.com> - 2016-10-13 13:31 -0600
                Re: Why I use gcc Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2016-10-16 03:00 -0700
                Re: Why I use gcc crankypuss <undisclosedUserid@gmail.com> - 2016-10-16 04:46 -0600
                Re: Why I use gcc Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2016-10-16 04:05 -0700
                Re: Why I use gcc Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2016-10-11 12:28 -0700
                Re: Why I use gcc Thiago Adams <thiago.adams@gmail.com> - 2016-10-11 13:24 -0700
                Re: Why I use gcc BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-10-11 21:28 +0100
                Re: Why I use gcc gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2016-10-11 20:43 +0000
                Re: Why I use gcc Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2016-10-11 23:40 -0500
            Re: Why I use gcc already5chosen@yahoo.com - 2016-10-11 04:40 -0700
      Re: Why I use gcc BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-10-10 18:19 +0100
    Re: Why I use gcc Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2016-10-10 09:08 -0700
      Re: Why I use gcc BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-10-10 18:04 +0100
        Re: Why I use gcc supercat@casperkitty.com - 2016-10-10 10:39 -0700
        Re: Why I use gcc Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2016-10-10 11:25 -0700
      Re: Why I use gcc Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-10-10 17:05 -0400
        Re: Why I use gcc supercat@casperkitty.com - 2016-10-10 14:46 -0700
    Re: Why I use gcc BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-10-15 13:39 +0100
      Re: Why I use gcc Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2016-10-15 13:40 -0700
        Re: Why I use gcc already5chosen@yahoo.com - 2016-10-15 13:46 -0700

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