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Re: Particle physics

From Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: Particle physics
Date 2016-09-30 08:54 -0500
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On 9/29/2016 11:21 PM, Ned Latham wrote:
> Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> Ned Latham wrote:
>>> Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>> Ned Latham wrote:
>>>>> Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>> Ned Latham wrote:
>>>>>>> Odd Bodkin wrote:
>
> ----snip----
>
>
>>>>                What are some of the others you think have been piled up?
>>>
>>> Oh, for fuck's sake. Who can keep track of the febrile meanderings
>>> that pass for theory?
>>
>> YOU can, if you'd bother to read.
>
> You can't. Why expect Me to dop it.
>
>>> Light speed as a constant within a given medium.
>>
>> It's not.
>
> I know.
>
>>           Doesn't exist as a postulate.
>
> Bullshit.

Then cite.

>
>>> Light speed as a limit (a different one in every medium).
>>
>> Verified by experiment.
>
> Bullshit

Particle accelerators SHOULD raise particles above c in a vacuum.
Cerenkov radiation would not exist if it were not for that speed limit.
Time dilation is a DIRECT confirmation of this speed limit.

.
>
>>                         Is this a problem?
>>
>>> Light speed as inversely proportional to the density of the medium.
>>
>> Such a law doesn't exist.
>
> Snell's Law.

That's not what Snell's law says. You have confused index of refraction 
with density. If you're going to quote a supposed postulate, then at 
least get it right.

Second, you might want to make a distinction between an empirical rule 
and a postulate. You can refer perhaps to your high school science book. 
As another example, Ohm's law is not a postulate.

>
>>> The curvilinear universe.
>>
>> Verified by experiment.
>
>
> Bullshit.

Oh dear, where to start here.
Deflection of light by astronomical bodies.
Gravitational doppler effect.
Frame dragging in Gravity Probe B.
Einstein ring images of distant galaxies.


>
>>                         Is this a problem?
>>
>>> Mass as distorting the contimuum.
>>
>> Verified by experiment.
>
> Nullshit.
>
>>                         Is this a problem?
>>
>>> Time as a dimension of the continuum.
>>
>>
>> Verified by experiment. Is this a problem?
>>
>>
>>> Time dilation.
>>
>> Verified by experiment.
>
> Bullshit.

I'm sensing a pattern here. Are you saying there is no evidence that 
exactly matches the predictions of the theories, or are you saying that 
verification by experiment would imply to you that all other 
possibilities for an alternate explanation have been ruled out?

>
>>                         Is this a problem?
>>
>>> Red shift as a measure of distance.
>>
>> Verified by experiment.
>
>
> Bullshit.
>
>>                         Is this a problem?
>>
>>
>>> The expanding universe.
>>
>> Verified by experiment.
>
> Bulshit.
>
>>                         Is this a problem?
>>
>>> The big bang.
>>
>> Verified by experiment.
>
> Bullshit.
>
>>                         Is this a problem?
>>
>>> The 10/11-dimension universe (string theory).
>>
>> That's a hypothesis, not a postulate.
>
> Hypothesis *is* postulation. Quit quibbling.

Uh, no. Look at your high school textbook.

>
>> It's not panning out so well. So?
>
> I suppose I can take it off the list.
>
> Let's replace it with one I forgot to include:
>
> Strong and Weak nuclear forces.

And what do you propose instead?

>
>>> Other universes (FYI that's a contradiction in terms).
>>
>> This is why meanings of words get altered or refined. Your
>> understanding of "universe" as meaning "the collection of
>> everything that exists" is NOT the meaning of the word as
>> physicists use it.
>
> So who's the lazy fuck who couldn't ne vothered coining
> amk unambiguous word?

Sorry, but this happens all the time.
The meaning of words depends on context. Sometimes physicists coin words 
like chromodynamics and quark and meson. Sometimes they have a new 
meaning for old words like color and spin and particle. When PHYSICISTS 
use these words, they understand the context and so they understand what 
meaning to pluck out.

Let me explain something to you. Physicists DO NOT OWE YOU terminology 
that is unambiguous enough that you cannot possibly be confused. They 
only owe EACH OTHER an unambiguous meaning given by the context. Those 
who are interested in following what they are saying are obligated to 
learn the meanings of those terms as they are using them.

>
>> Are you interested in the meaning of the word as they use it,
>
> Nope. The postulate is nonsense.

And you know this HOW? Because of the meaning of the word?

>
>> or are you just going to dismiss that meaning as "just not
>> acceptable"?
>
> Nope. The postulate isa no9nsense.
>
>>> Tachyons and the tachyon "universe".
>>
>> That's a hypothesis. So?
>
> Hypothises *is* postulation. Quit the posruring.
>
>>> Particle entanglement (Schroedinger's cat)
>>
>> Verified by experiment.
>
> Bullshit.
>
>>                         Is this a problem?
>>
>>> Dark matter.
>>
>> That's a hypothesis. So?
>
> Hypothises *is* postulation. Quit the posruring.
>
>>> Dark energy.
>>
>> That's a hypothesis. So?
>
> Hypothises *is* postulation. Quit the posruring.
>
>>>
>>> Blah, blah, blah .....
>>>
>>>>> I've had enough of pseudo-science.
>>>>
>>>> What do you think "pseudo-science" means?
>>>
>>> In part: processes that are alleged to be science but in fact
>>> do not follow scientifically valid procedures/methodology.
>>
>> OK, and so which of the above did not follow scientifically valid
>> procedures/methodology? And what in particular was the lapse?
>
> Take your pick. *All* of the work done since Bequerel's day is
> invalid, because it makes the unconfirmed assumption that the
> pattern of light produced by Young's experiment *is* the wave
> pattern it resenbles.
>
> And the "confirmations" you assert above are no such thing
> because the experiments and the interpretations are all
> based on the same assumption.
>
> ----sniop----
>
> Med
>


-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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                Re: Particle physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-30 07:27 -0500
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                Re: Particle physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-30 12:26 -0500
                Re: Particle physics Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-10-01 16:57 +0000
                Re: Particle physics Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-09-30 02:30 +0000
                Re: Particle physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-30 07:56 -0500
                Re: Particle physics Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-09-30 14:12 +0000
                Re: Particle physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-30 09:31 -0500
                Re: Particle physics Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-09-30 16:56 +0000
                Re: Particle physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-10-01 14:59 -0500
                Re: Particle physics Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-10-02 02:33 +0000
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                Re: Particle physics Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-10-02 02:47 +0000
                Re: Particle physics Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-09-30 02:35 +0000
                Re: Particle physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-30 08:02 -0500
                Re: Particle physics Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-09-30 02:43 +0000
                Re: Particle physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-30 08:09 -0500
                Re: Particle physics Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-10-01 16:52 +0200
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                Re: Particle physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-30 08:12 -0500
                Re: Particle physics Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-09-30 14:20 +0000
                Re: Particle physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-30 09:33 -0500
                Re: Particle physics Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-09-30 17:05 +0000
                Re: Particle physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-10-01 15:00 -0500
                Re: Particle physics Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-10-02 02:40 +0000
                Re: Particle physics Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-10-01 20:50 -0700
                Re: Particle physics Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-10-02 05:28 +0000
                Re: Particle physics Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-10-02 04:39 -0700
                Re: Particle physics Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-10-02 12:07 +0000
                Re: Particle physics Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-10-02 05:52 -0700
                Re: Particle physics Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-10-02 14:05 +0000
                Re: Particle physics Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-10-02 07:33 -0700
                Re: Particle physics Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-10-02 21:42 +0000
                Re: Particle physics Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-10-02 22:01 +0000
                Re: Particle physics Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-10-02 15:07 -0700
                Re: Particle physics Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-10-03 01:35 +0000
                Re: Particle physics Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-10-02 19:49 -0700
                Re: Particle physics Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-10-03 03:58 +0000
                Re: Particle physics Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-10-03 04:43 -0700
                Re: Particle physics Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-10-03 13:46 +0000
                Re: Particle physics Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-10-03 07:56 -0700
                Re: Particle physics Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-10-03 20:35 +0000
                Re: Particle physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-10-03 17:06 -0500
                Re: Particle physics Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-10-03 22:48 +0000
                Re: Particle physics Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-10-03 15:08 -0700
                Re: Particle physics Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-10-03 22:49 +0000
                Re: Particle physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-10-03 09:30 -0500
                Re: Particle physics Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-10-03 22:11 +0000
                Re: Particle physics Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-10-03 22:18 +0000
                Re: Particle physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-10-06 09:56 -0500
                Re: Particle physics Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-10-07 03:05 +0000
                Re: Particle physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-10-07 07:45 -0500
                Re: Particle physics Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-10-07 13:50 +0000
                Re: Particle physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-10-07 09:35 -0500
                Re: Particle physics Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-10-07 20:47 +0000
                Re: Particle physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-10-07 16:22 -0500
                Re: Particle physics Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-10-08 14:35 +0000
                Re: Particle physics Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-09-30 03:07 +0000
                Re: Particle physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-30 08:14 -0500
                Re: Particle physics Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-09-30 03:18 +0000
                Re: Particle physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-30 08:17 -0500
                Re: Particle physics Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-10-01 16:57 +0200
                Re: Particle physics Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-09-30 04:03 +0000
                Re: Particle physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-30 08:19 -0500
                Re: Particle physics Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-09-30 14:25 +0000
                Re: Particle physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-30 09:47 -0500
                Re: Particle physics Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-09-30 17:15 +0000
                Re: Particle physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-10-01 14:59 -0500
                Re: Particle physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-30 08:29 -0500
                Re: Particle physics Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-09-30 14:48 +0000
                Re: Particle physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-30 09:55 -0500
                Re: Particle physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-30 10:20 -0500
                Re: Particle physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-30 10:38 -0500
                Re: Particle physics Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-09-30 17:46 +0000
                Re: Particle physics Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-09-30 17:33 +0000
                Re: Particle physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-10-03 08:23 -0500
                Re: Particle physics Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-10-03 14:17 +0000
                Re: Particle physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-10-03 12:30 -0500
                Re: Particle physics Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-10-03 20:50 +0000
                Re: Particle physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-10-03 16:04 -0500
                Re: Particle physics Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-10-03 22:33 +0000
                Re: Particle physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-10-04 09:54 -0500
                Re: Particle physics Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-10-05 02:47 +0000
                Re: Particle physics Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-10-05 06:09 +0000
                Re: Particle physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-10-03 16:24 -0500
                Re: Particle physics Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-10-03 22:38 +0000
                Re: Particle physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-10-04 09:54 -0500
                Re: Particle physics Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-10-05 02:26 +0000
                Re: Particle physics Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-10-05 04:31 -0700
                Re: Particle physics Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-10-05 17:04 +0000
                Re: Particle physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-10-05 13:06 -0500
                Re: Particle physics Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-10-06 00:08 +0000
                Re: Particle physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-10-06 09:14 -0500
                Re: Particle physics Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-10-07 02:22 +0000
                Re: Particle physics Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-10-06 07:23 -0700
                Re: Particle physics Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-10-07 02:52 +0000
                Re: Particle physics Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-10-06 21:25 -0700
                Re: Particle physics Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-10-07 06:16 +0000
                Re: Particle physics Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-10-07 06:44 -0700
                Re: Particle physics Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-10-07 20:29 +0000
                Re: Particle physics Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-10-07 20:08 -0700
                Re: Particle physics Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-10-08 14:17 +0000
                Re: Particle physics Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-10-08 15:18 -0700
                Re: Particle physics Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-10-09 02:42 +0000
                Re: Particle physics Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-10-09 04:50 -0700
                Re: Particle physics Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-10-09 12:42 +0000
                Re: Particle physics Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-10-09 06:19 -0700
                Re: Particle physics Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-10-09 20:34 +0000
                Re: Particle physics Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-10-09 19:24 -0700
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                Re: Particle physics Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-10-10 04:24 -0700
                Re: Particle physics Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-10-10 14:20 +0000
                Re: Particle physics Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-10-10 03:21 +0000
                Re: Particle physics Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-10-09 02:44 +0000
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                Re: Particle physics Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-10-07 12:22 +0000
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