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Re: Today's Presidential Debate.

From GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.advocacy, sci.physics
Subject Re: Today's Presidential Debate.
Date 2016-09-29 10:43 -0600
Organization A noiseless patient Spider
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On 09/28/2016 02:47 PM, Snit wrote:
> On 9/28/16, 1:19 PM, in article nsh8ju$u2l$1@dont-email.me, "GreyCloud"
> <Cumulus@mist.com> wrote:
>
>> On 09/28/2016 11:32 AM, Snit wrote:
>>> On 9/28/16, 10:18 AM, in article nsgu1g$i38$2@dont-email.me, "GreyCloud"
>>> <Cumulus@mist.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 09/28/2016 09:56 AM, Snit wrote:
>>>>> On 9/28/16, 8:32 AM, in article nsgnqs$rb3$1@dont-email.me, "GreyCloud"
>>>>> <Cumulus@mist.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>> What have you got against putin? All he wanted to do was do
>>>>>>>> business.  Yet Obama has a lot of hardware on his border.  Russia
>>>>>>>> doesn't have a base in our hemisphere.  They only have two.  So who
>>>>>>>> is surrounding who? At least Trump can do business and get a better
>>>>>>>> deal than Hillary ever will.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Absolutely correct. Reason and logic escape the Prescott Parasite.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It sounds like snit wants this war to happen.  If he is on any kind of
>>>>>> subsistence packages, this war will take it away from him.
>>>>>
>>>>> Remember: what "sounds" to you is not relevant to my beliefs.
>>>>
>>>> Your beliefs are yours.
>>>> They are not mine.
>>>
>>> Correct: so when you say I want "this war" to happen I can unequivocally
>>> tell you that you are wrong, even if it "seems" to you otherwise.
>>>
>>
>> Sure sounds like it.  You don't want Trump in office, so you must want war.
>
> False dichotomy.

On what grounds?
I'd prefer a Mason in office over a dumb communist.

>
>>>>>>>>> Hey, were you not against those who are supported by Soviets?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> During that era, yes.  But the Soviets no longer exist.  Since the
>>>>>>>> early 90s, the KGB was dismantled.  Now, because of the dishonest
>>>>>>>> manner in what this country is doing, he now has started the KGB
>>>>>>>> back up.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> American media always wants its citizens to be scared of something.
>>>>>>> During the Cold War, they convinced Americans that Soviets were a real
>>>>>>> threat and it allowed them to spend inordinate amounts of money on the
>>>>>>> military. Then, they tried to convince everyone that terrorists were a
>>>>>>> problem. Then, it was North Korea. Now, it's Russia again even though
>>>>>>> the Muslims (not terrorists) have shown themselves to be the real
>>>>>>> issue. Having Russia as an enemy is profitable because it requires
>>>>>>> real spending on military equipment; having Muslims as an enemy does
>>>>>>> not because all it requires is for law enforcement to do their job and
>>>>>>> for administrations to deport them. Why do you think that Russia is
>>>>>>> the target of all hate? The sniveling little Prescott Parasite once
>>>>>>> again demonstrates a complete lack of reason and logic.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The media does to assuage the military industrial complex.  Going to war
>>>>>> is not the answer.
>>>>>
>>>>> Neither is Nazi-like bigotry that Slimer speaks of having. I find that
>>>>> reprehensible.
>>>>
>>>> That is our gov. stance at the current time.
>>>
>>> Trump is pushing much of the same Nazi-like bigotry.
>>
>> What nazi-like bigotry?
>> I haven't seen that yet.
>
> We already talked about his attacks on Muslims. And then you agreed saying
> it is not their country... when Muslim Americans are as much citizens as you
> and I.
>

While the muslims are raping and killing americans?  You call that an 
attack?   Guffaw!!!

>>>> Any other belief would be the ostrich with its head in the sand, not
>>>> wanting to hear the real truth.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Trump actually wants to reduce our spending by
>>>>>> cutting useless government agencies and programs.  We don't need them.
>>>>>> By removing our forces from all around the world we'd save an awful lot
>>>>>> of expenditures.  I'm not sure if he will dump the entire federal
>>>>>> reserve system, but it is already being dumped by other countries
>>>>>> anyway, so trump may as well dump them and save a whole lot more.  I
>>>>>> figure by repudiating the debt to the obscene bankers, this country
>>>>>> would be out of debt, but we have to find a way to pay back to other
>>>>>> countries that have bought up our debt.  This is where the real problem
>>>>>> in this country is today... DEBT.  That's why these ranchers are being
>>>>>> kicked off their land so that our government can pay off that part of
>>>>>> the debt to other countries, namely China, by giving our lands away to
>>>>>> china.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is hard to reason with a seasoned social justice warrior like snit.
>>>>>> They've been totally brain-washed by the progressive movement, which in
>>>>>> my opinion is a communist movement.
>>>>>> His actions and methods speak louder than words ever will.
>>>>>
>>>>> Your first five words are the only ones of that paragraph which are true in
>>>>> any way. :)
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On gov. spending?
>>>
>>> No, when you said: "It is hard to reason..."
>>>
>>> I was being snarky in response to your insults.
>>
>> And you weren't insulting?  LOL!!!
>> You do sound like a social warrior trying to get people to see things
>> your way.  It won't work.
>
> I am using logic and reason to try to "convince" someone swayed by
> emotion... so, no, it will not work.

It is called Propaganda.  Some people think they are using logic, but 
they use their logic with false data, creating a false conclusion.

>
>>>
>>>> Of course. And that is precisely what he is bringing
>>>> to the table.
>>>> We'll all benefit from it in many ways.
>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If you are in your early 30s and WWIII starts, better get your
>>>>>>>>>> affairs in order as you'll get drafted.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Both Clinton and Trump will lead to war.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Just Clinton.  Trump won't do it as it isn't in his nature to do
>>>>>>>> so. Remember that EisenHower said during his farewell speech that
>>>>>>>> the country needs to be aware and beware of the Industrial Military
>>>>>>>> Complex, mainly the big corporations that make money off of war.
>>>>>>>> This JFK took to heart and started the space program so that these
>>>>>>>> corporations could transition to space exploration, rather than war
>>>>>>>> time production.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Well said.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> He's even agreed that this was a good idea, but then reverts to social
>>>>>> engineering tactics that are just the opposite.
>>>>>> He want's division so that the progressives can win their agenda.
>>>>>
>>>>> The "agenda" of equal rights. HOW HORRID!
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The "agenda" of course.
>>>
>>> Of equal rights? That, I think, is the primary "Progressive agenda."
>>>
>>
>> No.  The communist agenda.  To overthrow this country.  Of course you
>> may not be aware of the law, that says
>> anyone caught trying to overthrow this country may be either put in
>> prison or shot to death.  You should realize now that Progressive =
>> Communist.
>>
>> You should read the Communist Manifesto.
>>
>> http://www.libertyzone.com/Communist-Manifesto-Planks.html
>
> Why change the topic to Communists? Seriously, WTF?
>

Because they are the ones pushing all this crap in our faces everyday.
Like "Politically Correct Speech" as an example.
I take it you don't want anybody to have liberty then.

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