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Re: Another study, same outcome

From Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject Re: Another study, same outcome
Date 2016-09-29 12:07 -0400
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On 2016-09-29 10:02 AM, -hh wrote:
> Silver Slimer wrote:
>> -hh wrote:
>>> Silver Slimer wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On 2016-09-27 10:12 PM, -hh wrote:
>>>>> Cuss n discuss...
>>>>> 
>>>>> http://www.webpagefx.com/blog/general/iphone-smartphone-market-sha
re
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> 
I think that Apple users are truly turning to their iPhones for every
>>>> task traditionally accomplished on a computer whereas
>>>> Android users (and others) use the device as a companion of
>>>> sorts.
>>> 
>>> Kind of like the difference between a good Admin that helps you
>>> get all of those important actions done for you in the office
>>> ... versus ... a good looking who can sit at a typewriter but
>>> doesn't get much done?  <g>
>> 
>> You're kidding but I actually see it that way. the iPhone will
>> allow cretins (a lot of those nowadays) to do what they want to
>> do with technology like taking selfies, posting them to Facebook,
>> sharing others' selfies and videos and communicating with other
>> cretins. These people are not concerned with the idea of
>> encrypting their messages, going on newsgroups, working on office
>> documents (since they don't have real jobs) or even storing their
>> music libraries (because they stream) so the iPhone is fantastic.
>> People with greater needs would find the iPhone too limiting.
> 
> Really?
> 
> But then just why is it that the data in the cited article finds 
> the reality to be the opposite?   Specifically, that the
> statistical trends are that higher education/higher income --->
> more iPhone share.
> 
> The demographic data shows that Android is the choice for the less
> educated & less affluent "cretins" (your term, not mine).
> 
> 
> Case in point, I'm just back from an acceptance test on a ~$700K 
> component assembly for a new prototype ... there were seven 
> engineers going through the qualification tests and everyone had a
> smartphone:  the demographics were 7 iPhones & 0 Android/other.

That's interesting but I still don't believe that the iPhone is the
platform for the smarter people. For the people who don't want to be
bothered maybe but not the smarter people.

>>> The hardware performance curve has improved enough such
>>> that...
>> 
>> All I know about horsepower is that the mobile phone in my pocket
>> was released in 2013...and it is very fast for all of the tasks I
>> would expect to do with a mobile phone.
> 
> Some of this is also that it is easy for us to forget what our
> previous products were like.
> 
> Earlier this month, I broke back out an older (3rd gen) iPod Touch
> that I still choose to use occasionally for when going into at-risk
> environments (eg, onboard a diveboat, where electronics can get
> fried by saltwater/sea spray). Powering up & logging back into my
> email accounts, the next step is to have it download a couple
> hundred of old emails as it "catches up", and to then delete them.
> This simple delete task was a slow, boggy experience, because it
> simply isn't anywhere near as fast as current hardware. For
> example, versus last year's iPhone 6s's Apple A9 CPU, its Geekbench
> scores are <280 vs. 2372, which means that this 2009 device is a
> full order of magnitude slower than a 2015 device:
> 
> <https://browser.primatelabs.com/ios-benchmarks>

Interesting to hear, thank you.

>> To be frank, it gives me no incentive whatsoever to upgrade to a
>> newer device ...
> 
> Once one drives faster stuff, its hard to go back.  Doesn't matter
> if we're talking smartphones, PCs, or automobiles.

However, the upgrade is only necessary if you feel that you need to do
that specific "new" task. If what you're doing in 2013 is the same as
what you're doing in 2016, chances are that you won't need to upgrade
if you use an Android. An iPhone, however, will be way too slow to
even perform those tasks provided you did the software updates.

>> ... what we did in 2006 is what we're mostly still doing in
>> 2016.
> 
> Except that it isn't.  As I mentioned (but deleted), stuff like
> maps now has a lot more detail, resolution and even real time data
> context than what we had/used a decade ago, and it takes more
> horsepower today.

Alright.


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Silver Slimer
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Another study, same outcome -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2016-09-27 19:12 -0700
  Re: Another study, same outcome Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-09-28 08:09 -0400
    Re: Another study, same outcome Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-09-28 14:27 +0000
      Re: Another study, same outcome Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-09-28 11:57 -0400
        Re: Another study, same outcome Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-09-28 16:32 +0000
          Re: Another study, same outcome Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-09-28 14:52 -0400
    Re: Another study, same outcome Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2016-09-28 16:28 +0100
      Re: Another study, same outcome Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-09-28 12:14 -0400
    Re: Another study, same outcome -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2016-09-29 03:47 -0700
      Re: Another study, same outcome Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-09-29 08:01 -0400
        Re: Another study, same outcome -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2016-09-29 07:02 -0700
          Re: Another study, same outcome Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-09-29 12:07 -0400
            Re: Another study, same outcome -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2016-09-29 10:44 -0700
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