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On 29/09/16 00:12, Jonathan Doolin wrote:
> On Tuesday, September 27, 2016 at 3:36:37 PM UTC-5, HGWilson, DSc.

>>> But in Luke 16:27-31 Lazarus doesn't say anything to the rich
>>> people's family, because he wasn't raised from the dead.
>>>
>>
>> Yes, fiction was very popular even in those days.
>
>
> But whether the texts on which the religions are based are fictional
> or not, "Today, around 3.4 billion people are followers of Abrahamic
> religion.  Abrahamic religions are the largest group, and these
> consist mainly of Christianity, Islam, Judaism (and the Bahá'í
> Faith?). They are named for the patriarch Abraham, and are unified by
> the practice of monotheism. Several Abrahamic organizations are
> vigorous proselytizers."
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_religious_groups
>
> I think it is quite plausible that this figure, Jesus of Nazareth
> existed, and Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, James, Peter, Paul, all were
> real people who wrote accounts of his life, and/or teaching.
>
> I'm not saying I believe in "impossible things".  The impossible
> parts of the gospels are surely fiction, or exaggeration, or perhaps
> irony.  "Miracle" does not have to mean "impossible".  It can just
> mean " a highly improbable or extraordinary event, development, or
> accomplishment that brings very welcome consequences."
>
snip..

Few people could read or write in those days and news was spread largely 
by word of mouth....Just a News Limited can sway public opinion today, 
so could a handful of clever men then who could put together a good story.

I imagine the bible and similar writings were fictional works based on 
what highly distorted facts were handed down through generations. They 
only concern the very small communities that existed around the eastern 
  Mediterranean. I suppose it has some historical value but I don't know 
why anyone bothers to attach any significance to these writings. A good 
book about geology or a paleontology text would be far more interesting 
and relevant to anyone interested in our origins.

The world certainly needed reforming 2000 years ago just as it does now 
and there were plenty of people who were aware of that.
I doubt if the god part was ever meant to be anything more than a 
publicity stunt and a way of appeasing the Romans. ...but it didn't work 
too well for some time.

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                Re: Jesus rose from the dead Jonathan Doolin <good4usoul@gmail.com> - 2016-10-01 07:06 -0700
                Re: Jesus rose from the dead "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-10-02 09:50 +1100
                Re: Jesus rose from the dead Jonathan Doolin <good4usoul@gmail.com> - 2016-10-02 09:54 -0700
                Re: Jesus rose from the dead "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-10-03 10:17 +1100
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                Re: Jesus rose from the dead Jonathan Doolin <good4usoul@gmail.com> - 2016-10-04 09:30 -0700
                Re: Jesus rose from the dead "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-10-08 21:34 +1100
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