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Re: "Linux kernel security needs a rethink" ?

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Melzzzzz wrote:

> On 2016-09-27, Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.cs.vu.nl/~ast/reliable-os/  Tanenbaum-Torvalds Debate: Part
>>>> II - (2006 May)
>>>>
>>> Microkernel lost it's attraction as it is slow. What we have today are
>>> actually hybrids...
>>
>> Dangerous LKM modules.
> 
> What is dangerous about them?
 
Nothing. Kernel modules can access kernel structures. Call the press!

>> Even with all of the loadable modules unloaded, the monolithic kernel is
>> 'vast', not really resembling anything like a 'self-healing' micro or
>> nano kernel used for some secure purposes.

There are no µ-kernels around which have anywhere near the functionality of 
the linux kernel

And what is this bullshit about 'self-healing'?
Any kernel, be it µ-kernel or a monolithic one have about the same lines of 
code if they have the same functionality. And that includes the same number 
of possibilities to screw up

> As long as there is no software on Linux that requires reboot after
> installation we are in good shape ;)
> 

Well, the other "choices" to linux are foremost windows and OSX.

Windows is inherently insecure, and OSX is shitty beyond belief. Both are 
also slow, OSX even extremely slow compared to linux

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"Linux kernel security needs a rethink" ? Yrrah <Yrrah-aol@aol.invalid> - 2016-09-27 16:28 +0200
  Re: "Linux kernel security needs a rethink" ? jrg <connyank@cox.net> - 2016-09-27 08:25 -0700
  Re: "Linux kernel security needs a rethink" ? Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2016-09-27 08:43 -0700
    Re: "Linux kernel security needs a rethink" ? Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2016-09-27 15:51 +0000
      Re: "Linux kernel security needs a rethink" ? Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2016-09-27 09:03 -0700
        Re: "Linux kernel security needs a rethink" ? "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2016-09-27 18:26 +0200
        Re: "Linux kernel security needs a rethink" ? Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2016-09-27 09:35 -0700
          Re: "Linux kernel security needs a rethink" ? Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2016-09-27 16:43 +0000
            Re: "Linux kernel security needs a rethink" ? Bud Frede <frede@mouse-potato.com> - 2016-09-28 06:59 -0400
        Re: "Linux kernel security needs a rethink" ? Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2016-09-27 16:42 +0000
          Re: "Linux kernel security needs a rethink" ? Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-09-27 18:53 +0200
            Re: "Linux kernel security needs a rethink" ? stepore <linshine@here.now> - 2016-09-27 21:07 -0700
              Re: "Linux kernel security needs a rethink" ? Bud Frede <frede@mouse-potato.com> - 2016-09-28 07:36 -0400
            Re: "Linux kernel security needs a rethink" ? William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2016-09-28 10:28 +0000
        Re: "Linux kernel security needs a rethink" ? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2016-09-28 10:55 +0000
    Re: "Linux kernel security needs a rethink" ? Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2016-09-27 08:53 -0700
      Re: "Linux kernel security needs a rethink" ? Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-09-27 12:39 -0400
    Re: "Linux kernel security needs a rethink" ? Bud Frede <frede@mouse-potato.com> - 2016-09-28 06:56 -0400

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