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Re: Marek Novotny Verification

From GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject Re: Marek Novotny Verification
Date 2016-09-26 13:50 -0600
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On 09/26/2016 01:17 PM, Marek Novotny wrote:
> On 2016-09-26, GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> wrote:
>
> // snip
>
>> I know.  As Marek so aptly put it:  Linux may not be for you.
>> At least I'm trying and found that OpenSuse comes the closest to windows
>> without the Orwellian side effects.  Cortana, for example, needs to
>> store your interactions profile on MS server so that it can better serve
>> you,... but that can also lead to possible other privacy problems.
>> Also, their EULA pretty much says that their corporate partners may look
>> into your computer to see how best to market to you (advertise that is).
>>
>> So far so good.
>>
>> Anyway, shouldn't a router box be able to stop MS and their partners
>> from snooping, or has MS figured out a way to get around that?
>
> Ah, come on... :) I'm expecting more from a Solaris guy...

I'm suspicious about MS is all.  I should have written down in my black 
book all the necessary commands to keep my system secured, but another 
fellow at Sun remotely checked out my security coming my way and said I 
was pretty well set up as it is, so I never worried about it.

But this is in regards to MS Orwellian tactics of snooping and setting 
up a windows 10 box with LAN router to prevent them from coming in.
They may have figured a way around routers this time around.  Mine is a 
Cisco VPN model.

>
> If I'm on your machine already, meaning I have code running in your
> machine, regardless of the OS... Can't I just open an external site via
> port 80? You use a browser don't ya?
>
> So once I have done that, that million dollar firewall you have is
> worthless. The firewall stops the outside from initiating a conversation
> on the inside, correct? But you're on the inside. And you start up a
> conversation with the outside all the time. See what I mean?
>
> So how hard is it for me to say write added code into a script that
> performs a reverse ssh into my box giving me access to you? If you're
> running my script, aren't you opening the pipe to me? So you're making
> an outside call. Does your current firewall prevent such a call?
>

I don't know these days.  Like I've said I've been out of the loop too 
long.  But I see what you mean.  The script sits inside of win10 and 
there isn't anything to do about it yet...  someone out there will 
figure it out anyway and provide a program to kill that script.

But I've pretty much given up on MS.  They aren't the same company 
anymore when I purchased an HP tower with win 7 on it.

OpenSuse seems to fit the bill for me at this point in time and I like 
the way it runs and I find it a lot easier to grok.

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Marek Novotny Verification Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-09-24 18:23 -0700
  Re: Marek Novotny Verification Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2016-09-25 01:24 +0000
    Re: Marek Novotny Verification Marek Novotny <mareknovotry@gmail.com> - 2016-09-24 18:30 -0700
      Re: Marek Novotny Verification Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2016-09-24 18:36 -0700
    Re: Marek Novotny Verification Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-09-24 18:48 -0700
      Re: Marek Novotny Verification Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-09-25 10:18 -0400
  Re: Marek Novotny Verification GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-09-24 19:56 -0600
    Re: Marek Novotny Verification Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-09-24 21:55 -0700
      Re: Marek Novotny Verification "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-09-25 05:52 +0000
        Re: Marek Novotny Verification Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-09-24 23:32 -0700
          Re: Marek Novotny Verification "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-09-25 06:53 +0000
            Re: Marek Novotny Verification Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-09-25 00:21 -0700
      Re: Marek Novotny Verification Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-09-25 10:21 -0400
        Re: Marek Novotny Verification GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-09-25 12:16 -0600
      Re: Marek Novotny Verification Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-09-25 07:55 -0700
        Re: Marek Novotny Verification Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-09-25 15:52 +0000
          Re: Marek Novotny Verification Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-09-25 08:59 -0700
            Re: Marek Novotny Verification Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-09-25 16:20 +0000
              Re: Marek Novotny Verification Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-09-25 09:27 -0700
                Re: Marek Novotny Verification Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-09-25 16:42 +0000
                Re: Marek Novotny Verification Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-09-25 17:39 +0000
                Re: Marek Novotny Verification Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-09-25 13:16 -0700
                Re: Marek Novotny Verification Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-09-25 14:56 -0700
        Re: Marek Novotny Verification "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-09-25 16:43 +0000
          Re: Marek Novotny Verification Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-09-25 09:55 -0700
            Re: Marek Novotny Verification "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-09-25 17:03 +0000
              Re: Marek Novotny Verification Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-09-25 10:10 -0700
                Re: Marek Novotny Verification "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-09-25 17:18 +0000
                Re: Marek Novotny Verification Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-09-25 13:13 -0700
                Re: Marek Novotny Verification "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-09-25 20:38 +0000
                Re: Marek Novotny Verification Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-09-25 13:50 -0700
                Re: Marek Novotny Verification "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-09-25 21:46 +0000
                Re: Marek Novotny Verification Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-09-25 14:52 -0700
      Re: Marek Novotny Verification GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-09-25 12:15 -0600
        Re: Marek Novotny Verification Silver Slimer <a.m@unseen.is.nospam> - 2016-09-25 18:56 +0000
          Re: Marek Novotny Verification GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-09-25 18:12 -0600
            Re: Marek Novotny Verification Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-09-26 08:28 -0400
              Re: Marek Novotny Verification GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-09-26 12:20 -0600
                Re: Marek Novotny Verification Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-09-26 19:17 +0000
                Re: Marek Novotny Verification GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-09-26 13:50 -0600
                Re: Marek Novotny Verification Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-09-26 20:22 +0000
                Re: Marek Novotny Verification GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-09-26 18:20 -0600
                Re: Marek Novotny Verification Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-09-27 02:45 +0000
                Re: Marek Novotny Verification Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-09-27 08:53 -0400
                Re: Marek Novotny Verification Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-09-27 14:19 +0000
                Re: Marek Novotny Verification Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-09-27 10:35 -0400
                Re: Marek Novotny Verification Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-09-27 14:44 +0000
                Re: Marek Novotny Verification chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-27 10:01 -0500
                Re: Marek Novotny Verification Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-09-27 08:45 -0700
                Re: Marek Novotny Verification GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-09-27 11:59 -0600
                Re: Marek Novotny Verification GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-09-26 13:50 -0600
                Re: Marek Novotny Verification Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-09-26 20:44 +0000
                Re: Marek Novotny Verification Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-09-26 16:57 -0400
                Re: Marek Novotny Verification Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-09-26 22:08 +0000
                Re: Marek Novotny Verification Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-09-26 18:37 -0400
                Re: Marek Novotny Verification Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-09-27 02:22 +0000
                Re: Marek Novotny Verification Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-09-27 08:50 -0400
                Re: Marek Novotny Verification Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-09-27 13:47 +0000
                Re: Marek Novotny Verification Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-09-27 09:55 -0400
                Re: Marek Novotny Verification Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-09-27 14:26 +0000
                Re: Marek Novotny Verification Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-09-27 10:39 -0400
                Re: Marek Novotny Verification GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-09-27 12:04 -0600
                Re: Marek Novotny Verification Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-09-27 08:44 -0700
                Re: Marek Novotny Verification Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-09-26 13:04 -0700
                Re: Marek Novotny Verification Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-09-26 14:25 -0700
                Re: Marek Novotny Verification Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2016-09-27 05:45 +0000
                Re: Marek Novotny Verification Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-09-27 08:32 -0700
                Re: Marek Novotny Verification Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-09-27 18:24 +0200
                Re: Marek Novotny Verification Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-09-27 10:17 -0700
                Re: Marek Novotny Verification Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-09-27 20:03 +0200
                Re: Marek Novotny Verification Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-09-27 11:04 -0700
                Re: Marek Novotny Verification Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-09-27 19:44 -0400
                Re: Marek Novotny Verification Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-09-28 00:49 +0000
                Re: Marek Novotny Verification chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-28 07:08 -0500
                Re: Marek Novotny Verification Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-09-28 14:24 +0000
                Re: Marek Novotny Verification Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-09-28 11:53 -0400
                Re: Marek Novotny Verification Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-09-28 17:56 +0200
                Re: Marek Novotny Verification Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-09-28 12:25 -0400
                Re: Marek Novotny Verification Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-09-28 18:27 +0200
                Re: Marek Novotny Verification Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-09-28 12:30 -0400
                Re: Marek Novotny Verification Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-09-28 20:37 +0200
                Re: Marek Novotny Verification Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-09-28 15:26 -0400
                Re: Marek Novotny Verification chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-28 11:54 -0500
                Re: Marek Novotny Verification chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-28 12:02 -0500
                Re: Marek Novotny Verification Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-09-28 10:08 -0700
                Re: Marek Novotny Verification GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-09-28 13:57 -0600
                Re: Marek Novotny Verification Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-09-28 15:58 +0000
                Re: Marek Novotny Verification Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-09-28 12:26 -0400
                Re: Marek Novotny Verification Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-09-28 09:00 -0700
                Re: Marek Novotny Verification Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-09-28 12:26 -0400
                Re: Marek Novotny Verification Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-09-28 10:04 -0700
                Re: Marek Novotny Verification GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-09-28 11:09 -0600
                Re: Marek Novotny Verification Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-09-28 14:55 -0400
                Re: Marek Novotny Verification GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-09-28 11:09 -0600
                Re: Marek Novotny Verification Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-09-28 15:16 -0400
                Re: Marek Novotny Verification GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-09-28 13:58 -0600
                Re: Marek Novotny Verification Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-09-28 16:02 -0400
                Re: Marek Novotny Verification Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-09-28 13:16 -0700
                Re: Marek Novotny Verification GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-09-29 10:16 -0600
                Re: Marek Novotny Verification Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-09-29 09:24 -0700
                Re: Marek Novotny Verification GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-09-29 21:38 -0600
                Re: Marek Novotny Verification Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-09-29 20:56 -0700
                Re: Marek Novotny Verification GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-09-30 14:34 -0600
                Re: Marek Novotny Verification GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-09-30 18:11 -0600
                Re: Marek Novotny Verification Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-09-29 09:37 -0700
                Re: Marek Novotny Verification Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-09-28 07:59 -0400
                Re: Marek Novotny Verification Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-09-28 13:39 +0000
                Re: Marek Novotny Verification Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-09-28 10:23 -0400
                Re: Marek Novotny Verification Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-09-28 08:35 -0700
                Re: Marek Novotny Verification Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-09-28 08:46 -0700
                Snit digest 315 / 2016-09-27 Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2016-09-27 20:28 +0000
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                Re: Marek Novotny Verification Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-09-26 22:17 +0200
                Re: Marek Novotny Verification Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-09-26 20:48 +0000
                Re: Marek Novotny Verification Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-09-26 16:50 -0400
                Re: Marek Novotny Verification GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-09-26 18:26 -0600
    Re: Marek Novotny Verification Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-09-25 10:19 -0400
      Re: Marek Novotny Verification GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-09-25 12:21 -0600
        Re: Marek Novotny Verification Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-09-25 18:29 +0000
          Re: Marek Novotny Verification "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-09-25 18:48 +0000
          Re: Marek Novotny Verification GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-09-25 18:13 -0600
            Re: Marek Novotny Verification Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-09-26 00:24 +0000
  Re: Marek Novotny Verification ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-09-25 02:20 +0000

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