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Re: Obvious Violation of the Second Law of Thermodynamics

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On 22.09.2016 22:06, Pentcho Valev wrote:
> In the following two videos one switches the capacitor on and off and
> the system can repeatedly lift floating weights:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHNwvfXUYb4 Rise in Liquid Level
> Between Plates of a Capacitor
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6KAH1JpdPg Liquid Dielectric
> Capacitor
>
> Switching the capacitor on and off involves no work done on the
> system so the energy for the work done BY the system (if it
> repeatedly lifts floating weights) can only come from the
> environmental heat, in violation of the second law of thermodynamics.

Sure. The battery is there only for fun.

When you turn on switch, energy from battery goes to the capacitor,
when you tunr it off, energy disipades. Energy do not goes back
to the battery.

One can build an oscialtor, then indeed the system will oscilate,
but this is the perpetuum mobile II kind in the same sense
as a pendulum is.

Energy to lift water and create electric field do not come from
heat, it comes from battery (or coil in the oscilator case).

It moves... In ideal conditions it would move forever, but
in real word pendulum is breaking because of drag,
and our electric pump dissipate energy on resistance
and due to drag in water.


Do it without a battery on any different source of power,
then we can talk about breaking thermodynamics;-)

bartekltg

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