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Re: FEED

From "HAA" <someone@microsoft.com>
Newsgroups comp.lang.forth
Subject Re: FEED
Date 2016-09-24 14:07 +1000
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Julian Fondren wrote:
> On Thursday, September 22, 2016 at 8:31:35 PM UTC-5, HAA wrote:
> > So in the space of a few c.l.f. days
>
> adventures-of-the-man-that-just-started-paying-attention.png
>
> > required a complicated idiot-proof ANS-compatible definition four
> > years in the making
>
> It doesn't have a trivial ANS definition.
>
> It does have trivial system-specific definitions.
>
> Point #1 is emphasized by nobody having presented a correct definition
> until four years after variously defective definitions were presented.
>
> With these points in mind, it's suggested that Forth systems implement
> it a convenient system-specific way.
>
> This then permits the standardization of a single generally useful
> word, instead of lots of narrowly useful words.

If it were me, I'd first be asking what good is this function, what uses have
been made of it, what critical need does it fulfill.  I'd do that before I'd consider
implementing it, let alone standardizing it.  Given the enthusiasm expressed
for this function on c.l.f., I looked at the uses gforth has made of it and it left
me underwhelmed.

> > idiot-proof
>
> "Actually does what it's supposed to do."
>
> > rarely used function
>
> Standards aren't a popularity contest for words.
>
> > hardly deserves a name
>
> Suppose that Forth had only ever dealt with decimal numbers, but now
> people are wanting BINARY OCTAL HEX words, and DECIMAL to set things
> back to normal.  In response to this, general functionality is
> proposed, in NUMBER-BASE
>
> Would you sneer that this word "hardly deserves a name" after it's
> argued that it doesn't need a short word like BASE ?

Not arguing over names, just commenting on the rapidly changing
weather on comp.lang.forth - 'clunky' one day and fine the next.


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FEED albert@cherry.spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2016-09-21 16:22 +0200
  Re: FEED Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2016-09-21 10:09 -0700
    Re: FEED Andreas Wagner <andreas.wagner@lowfatcomputing.org> - 2016-09-21 12:13 -0700
      Re: FEED foxaudioresearch@gmail.com - 2016-09-21 12:43 -0700
        Re: FEED "HAA" <someone@microsoft.com> - 2016-09-22 12:20 +1000
        Re: FEED Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2016-09-21 21:31 -0700
          Re: FEED Michael Barry <barrym95838@yahoo.com> - 2016-09-21 22:09 -0700
  Re: FEED anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2016-09-22 08:24 +0000
    Re: FEED Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2016-09-22 15:53 +0100
  Re: FEED Julian Fondren <julian.fondren@gmail.com> - 2016-09-22 08:19 -0700
    Re: FEED albert@cherry.spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2016-09-22 20:08 +0200
    Re: FEED "HAA" <someone@microsoft.com> - 2016-09-23 11:32 +1000
      Re: FEED julian.fondren@endurance.com - 2016-09-22 20:57 -0700
      Re: FEED Julian Fondren <julian.fondren@gmail.com> - 2016-09-22 21:46 -0700
        Re: FEED "HAA" <someone@microsoft.com> - 2016-09-24 14:07 +1000
          Re: FEED hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-10-03 20:56 -0700
      Re: FEED Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2016-09-23 10:30 +0100

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