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Re: OT change of topic by Rod Speed - iPhone versus Android security

From Horace Algiers <horace@horacealgiers.com>
Newsgroups comp.mobile.android, alt.cellular, misc.phone.mobile.iphone
Subject Re: OT change of topic by Rod Speed - iPhone versus Android security
Date 2016-09-21 23:32 +0000
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On Thu, 22 Sep 2016 04:22:07 +1000, Rod Speed wrote:

> And if you had a fucking clue about security, you'd be using an iphone
> anyway, because your personal data is MUCH more secure with those.

< OT > 
It's an entirely *different* topic as to whether an iPhone is more or less
secure than any other mobile device.

On that off-topic rant of yours, it's clear that you are willing to trade
flexibility for the mere *illusion* of security.

It's funny that you actually *believe* that iOS is *more secure* than any
other non-hardened mobile OS (such as Android).

And you say "I" don't have a clue.

Apparently you missed the entire thread proving that no mobile device on a
commercial consumer operating system is even remotely close to "secure".

But don't take it from me. 
Read this from March 3, 2016
Apple iOS vs Google Android: Which is the more secure smartphone OS?
ANSWER = neither
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/apple-ios-vs-google-android-which-more-secure-smartphone-os-1547396
 "The Apple operating system is [far] more limited [and only] in theory,
more secure...[in fact] for every Stagefright there is a YiSpecter – which
was uncovered by researchers at Palo Alto Networks and found to be
attacking both jailbroken and non-jailbroken Apple devices. When mixed with
the aforementioned XCodeGhost – which resulted in malicious code in a slew
of apps listed on the official iOS app store ... security experts are now
arguing that both platforms need to step up their game."

Kaspersky says the same thing:
https://usa.kaspersky.com/internet-security-center/threats/android-vs-iphone-mobile-security
 "Not invulnerable to malware ... Apple products ... don't guarantee 100%
security and are still vulnerable to malware and hacking."

You are willing to trade flexibility for the mere *illusion* of security.

Using an iOS device is like driving a car with the engine bay welded shut.
Sure, you *feel* safe - but you're just *pointing* the thing.

And, that *feeling* of safety is merely an illusion that anyone with
untainted eyes can see right through.

It's patently clear that *you* willingly trade a tremendous loss of freedom
for the mere *illusion* of safety; but the question at hand remains simply
whether others disable the carrier diagnostic software on their cellphones.

< / OT >

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Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-21 05:02 +0000
  Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-21 06:06 +0000
    Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-21 17:19 +1000
      Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? Horace Algiers <horace@horacealgiers.com> - 2016-09-21 17:14 +0000
        Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-22 04:03 +1000
    Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2016-09-21 07:53 -0700
      Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-21 11:01 -0400
        Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? Horace Algiers <horace@horacealgiers.com> - 2016-09-21 17:14 +0000
          Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-21 13:35 -0400
            Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? Horace Algiers <horace@horacealgiers.com> - 2016-09-21 17:45 +0000
              Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-21 13:51 -0400
                Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? Horace Algiers <horace@horacealgiers.com> - 2016-09-21 18:09 +0000
                Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-21 14:15 -0400
                Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? Horace Algiers <horace@horacealgiers.com> - 2016-09-21 22:39 +0000
                Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-21 18:44 -0400
                Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-22 10:01 +1000
                Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-22 04:31 +1000
              Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-22 04:22 +1000
                Re: OT change of topic by Rod Speed - iPhone versus Android security Horace Algiers <horace@horacealgiers.com> - 2016-09-21 23:32 +0000
                Re: OT change of topic by Rod Speed - iPhone versus Android security "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-22 10:16 +1000
                Re: OT change of topic by Rod Speed - iPhone versus Android security nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-21 22:22 -0400
          Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-22 04:10 +1000
            Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2016-09-21 11:59 -0700
              Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-22 06:34 +1000
      Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? AL <noemail@none.invalid.com> - 2016-09-21 09:27 -0700
        Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? Horace Algiers <horace@horacealgiers.com> - 2016-09-21 17:32 +0000
      Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? Horace Algiers <horace@horacealgiers.com> - 2016-09-21 17:14 +0000
        Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-22 04:12 +1000
  Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-21 17:02 +1000
  Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-09-21 03:25 -0400
    Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-21 07:47 +0000
      Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-09-21 21:50 -0400
        Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? Horace Algiers <horace@horacealgiers.com> - 2016-09-22 22:43 +0000
  Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2016-09-21 11:09 -0400
    Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? Horace Algiers <horace@horacealgiers.com> - 2016-09-21 17:14 +0000
      Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-21 13:35 -0400
        Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? Horace Algiers <horace@horacealgiers.com> - 2016-09-21 18:04 +0000
          Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-21 14:15 -0400
          Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-22 04:27 +1000
      Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-22 03:59 +1000
        Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? Horace Algiers <horace@horacealgiers.com> - 2016-09-21 18:11 +0000
          Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-21 14:15 -0400
          Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-22 04:33 +1000
            Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2016-09-21 16:49 -0500
              Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-22 08:29 +1000
              Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? Horace Algiers <horace@horacealgiers.com> - 2016-09-21 23:32 +0000
                Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-22 10:04 +1000
      Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-09-21 21:58 -0400
        Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2016-09-21 19:51 -0700
          Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? Horace Algiers <horace@horacealgiers.com> - 2016-09-22 22:43 +0000
          Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? Horace Algiers <horace@horacealgiers.com> - 2016-09-22 22:51 +0000
            Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-22 18:54 -0400
            Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2016-09-22 16:19 -0700
        Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? Horace Algiers <horace@horacealgiers.com> - 2016-09-22 22:43 +0000
          Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-09-23 00:20 -0400
            Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? Horace Algiers <horace@horacealgiers.com> - 2016-09-23 16:08 +0000
              Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? Graham Murray <newspost@gmurray.org.uk> - 2016-09-23 18:04 +0100
                Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? Horace Algiers <horace@horacealgiers.com> - 2016-09-23 22:38 +0000
                Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-24 15:55 +1000
                Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? Horace Algiers <horace@horacealgiers.com> - 2016-09-24 16:39 +0000
                Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-25 07:39 +1000
                Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-09-24 18:10 -0400
                Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-25 09:00 +1000
                Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? Horace Algiers <horace@horacealgiers.com> - 2016-09-24 22:10 +0000
                Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-25 09:04 +1000
                Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? Horace Algiers <horace@horacealgiers.com> - 2016-09-24 16:41 +0000
                Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? Horace Algiers <horace@horacealgiers.com> - 2016-09-23 22:38 +0000
                Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-23 18:40 -0400
                Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? Horace Algiers <horace@horacealgiers.com> - 2016-09-23 22:47 +0000
                Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-23 18:55 -0400
                Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? Horace Algiers <horace@horacealgiers.com> - 2016-09-23 23:45 +0000
                Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-09-24 00:06 +0000
                Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? Horace Algiers <horace@horacealgiers.com> - 2016-09-24 00:20 +0000
                Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-09-24 01:09 +0000
                Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-24 16:01 +1000
                Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? Horace Algiers <horace@horacealgiers.com> - 2016-09-24 16:31 +0000
                Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-25 07:35 +1000
                Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? "Kerr Mudd-John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2016-09-30 12:22 +0100
              Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-23 13:04 -0400
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