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Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone?

From Horace Algiers <horace@horacealgiers.com>
Newsgroups comp.mobile.android, alt.cellular, misc.phone.mobile.iphone
Subject Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone?
Date 2016-09-21 17:14 +0000
Organization Aioe.org NNTP Server
Message-ID <nruf60$1r7o$1@gioia.aioe.org> (permalink)
References <nrt488$1inm$1@gioia.aioe.org> <210920161109327660%star@sky.net>

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On Wed, 21 Sep 2016 11:09:32 -0400, Davoud wrote:

> Fortunately, there is no history of mental illness in my famil

Somehow, no matter *what* the subject matter is, you consistently prove
that you're a kook who can't add any value to *any* discussion.

Anyway, it seems that *most* carriers and *both* major platforms (i.e.,
both Apple & Google) seems to have employed carrier-diagnostic software
initially created by a Silicon Valley company called "Carrier IQ".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carrier_IQ

On December 1, 2011, AT&T, Sprint, and T-Mobile confirmed that "Carrier IQ"
was on their phones. Verizon was the only one of the four biggest U.S.
firms to say it was not installed on their phones.

Apple, HTC, and Samsung said the Carrier IQ diagnostic software was
installed on their phones. Apple said it had quit supporting the
application in iOS 5. It said, "With any diagnostic data sent to Apple,
customers must actively opt-in to share this information and Apple said it
would scrub the software from phones in some future release.

As Savageduck and tlvp found out for Verizon "The IQ Agent software runs in
the background, and the user is not usually aware of its presence unless
the implementation includes an on-off switch".

Luckily T-Mobile includes that opt-out switch on all their Android phones.
I'm not sure yet if anyone here has an iPhone with T-Mobile who can see if
they can opt out of the Carrier IQ Agent data gathering.

The software is on over a hundred million smart phones according to the
Wikipedia article as Carrier IQ acts as a diagnostic agent for the mobile
carrier operators.

Their value equation to the mobile carriers is "real time" collection of
data: "Carrier IQ’s Mobile Service Intelligence solution eliminates
guesswork by automatically providing accurate, real-time data direct from
the source – your customers' handsets."

I don't know of any Apple software to detect "Carrier IQ", but, there is an
Android app on Google Play which does not require rooting that will
identify the app:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.lookout.carrieriqdetector&hl=en
CarrierIQ Scanner & Protection by Lookout Labs 

I created a bogus Google Play account, and ran the software and it detected
Carrier IQ software on my mobile handset, but it can't detect wither I've
adequately disabled it yet (that's where the T-mobile opt-out instructions
apply).

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Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-21 05:02 +0000
  Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-21 06:06 +0000
    Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-21 17:19 +1000
      Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? Horace Algiers <horace@horacealgiers.com> - 2016-09-21 17:14 +0000
        Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-22 04:03 +1000
    Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2016-09-21 07:53 -0700
      Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-21 11:01 -0400
        Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? Horace Algiers <horace@horacealgiers.com> - 2016-09-21 17:14 +0000
          Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-21 13:35 -0400
            Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? Horace Algiers <horace@horacealgiers.com> - 2016-09-21 17:45 +0000
              Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-21 13:51 -0400
                Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? Horace Algiers <horace@horacealgiers.com> - 2016-09-21 18:09 +0000
                Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-21 14:15 -0400
                Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? Horace Algiers <horace@horacealgiers.com> - 2016-09-21 22:39 +0000
                Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-21 18:44 -0400
                Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-22 10:01 +1000
                Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-22 04:31 +1000
              Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-22 04:22 +1000
                Re: OT change of topic by Rod Speed - iPhone versus Android security Horace Algiers <horace@horacealgiers.com> - 2016-09-21 23:32 +0000
                Re: OT change of topic by Rod Speed - iPhone versus Android security "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-22 10:16 +1000
                Re: OT change of topic by Rod Speed - iPhone versus Android security nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-21 22:22 -0400
          Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-22 04:10 +1000
            Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2016-09-21 11:59 -0700
              Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-22 06:34 +1000
      Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? AL <noemail@none.invalid.com> - 2016-09-21 09:27 -0700
        Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? Horace Algiers <horace@horacealgiers.com> - 2016-09-21 17:32 +0000
      Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? Horace Algiers <horace@horacealgiers.com> - 2016-09-21 17:14 +0000
        Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-22 04:12 +1000
  Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-21 17:02 +1000
  Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-09-21 03:25 -0400
    Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-21 07:47 +0000
      Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-09-21 21:50 -0400
        Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? Horace Algiers <horace@horacealgiers.com> - 2016-09-22 22:43 +0000
  Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2016-09-21 11:09 -0400
    Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? Horace Algiers <horace@horacealgiers.com> - 2016-09-21 17:14 +0000
      Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-21 13:35 -0400
        Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? Horace Algiers <horace@horacealgiers.com> - 2016-09-21 18:04 +0000
          Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-21 14:15 -0400
          Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-22 04:27 +1000
      Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-22 03:59 +1000
        Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? Horace Algiers <horace@horacealgiers.com> - 2016-09-21 18:11 +0000
          Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-21 14:15 -0400
          Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-22 04:33 +1000
            Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2016-09-21 16:49 -0500
              Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-22 08:29 +1000
              Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? Horace Algiers <horace@horacealgiers.com> - 2016-09-21 23:32 +0000
                Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-22 10:04 +1000
      Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-09-21 21:58 -0400
        Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2016-09-21 19:51 -0700
          Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? Horace Algiers <horace@horacealgiers.com> - 2016-09-22 22:43 +0000
          Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? Horace Algiers <horace@horacealgiers.com> - 2016-09-22 22:51 +0000
            Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-22 18:54 -0400
            Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2016-09-22 16:19 -0700
        Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? Horace Algiers <horace@horacealgiers.com> - 2016-09-22 22:43 +0000
          Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-09-23 00:20 -0400
            Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? Horace Algiers <horace@horacealgiers.com> - 2016-09-23 16:08 +0000
              Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? Graham Murray <newspost@gmurray.org.uk> - 2016-09-23 18:04 +0100
                Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? Horace Algiers <horace@horacealgiers.com> - 2016-09-23 22:38 +0000
                Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-24 15:55 +1000
                Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? Horace Algiers <horace@horacealgiers.com> - 2016-09-24 16:39 +0000
                Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-25 07:39 +1000
                Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-09-24 18:10 -0400
                Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-25 09:00 +1000
                Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? Horace Algiers <horace@horacealgiers.com> - 2016-09-24 22:10 +0000
                Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-25 09:04 +1000
                Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? Horace Algiers <horace@horacealgiers.com> - 2016-09-24 16:41 +0000
                Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? Horace Algiers <horace@horacealgiers.com> - 2016-09-23 22:38 +0000
                Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-23 18:40 -0400
                Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? Horace Algiers <horace@horacealgiers.com> - 2016-09-23 22:47 +0000
                Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-23 18:55 -0400
                Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? Horace Algiers <horace@horacealgiers.com> - 2016-09-23 23:45 +0000
                Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-09-24 00:06 +0000
                Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? Horace Algiers <horace@horacealgiers.com> - 2016-09-24 00:20 +0000
                Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-09-24 01:09 +0000
                Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-24 16:01 +1000
                Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? Horace Algiers <horace@horacealgiers.com> - 2016-09-24 16:31 +0000
                Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-25 07:35 +1000
                Re: Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone? "Kerr Mudd-John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2016-09-30 12:22 +0100
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