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Re: Negative Gravity?

From	HGW <hw@....>
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Subject	Re: Negative Gravity?
Date	2016-09-14 08:16 +1000
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On 13/09/16 13:39, Tom Roberts wrote:
> On 9/12/16 9/12/16   12:21 PM, RichD wrote:

>
> If you look carefully and accurately enough, you'll always find some
> mass differences when energy is transformed. For instance, in a
> hydroelectric plant the mass decrease corresponding to the electricity
> produced is in the total mass of earth+water; but there is a
> corresponding mass increase in whatever used the electricity (it
> ultimately gets converted to heat).
>
>      For a closed system, if you heat it up its mass increases by
>      an amount E/c^2, where E is the energy you injected to heat
>      it up. The earth (+ atmosphere) is approximately a closed
>      system -- but only approximately; global warming is primarily
>      due to a changing balance between energy input from the sun
>      and energy radiated into space (there is also a tiny component
>      due to releasing energy stored eons ago).

Without wishing to disagree, is there any evidence which indicates that 
the equation E=mc^2 applies to any form of energy other than that 
released from changes in nuclear binding forces?

>
> Tom Roberts


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  Re: Negative Gravity? Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-08-28 22:08 -0500
    Re: Negative Gravity? "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-08-29 21:01 +1000
      Re: Negative Gravity? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-08-30 12:12 -0700
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    Re: Negative Gravity? RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2016-08-31 11:37 -0700
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        Re: Negative Gravity? "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-09-03 09:31 +1000
          Re: Negative Gravity? Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-09-02 18:05 -0700
            Re: Negative Gravity? Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-09-03 08:19 -0500
              Re: Negative Gravity? Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-09-03 09:55 -0700
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          Re: Negative Gravity? Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-09-06 12:22 -0500
            Re: Negative Gravity? HGW <hw@....> - 2016-09-14 08:35 +1000
  Re: Negative Gravity? Alan Folmsbee <omnilobe@gmail.com> - 2016-08-28 21:48 -0700
    Re: Negative Gravity? "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-08-29 21:53 +1000
      Re: Negative Gravity? Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-08-30 10:11 -0500
        Re: Negative Gravity? RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2016-09-12 10:21 -0700
          Re: Negative Gravity? Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-09-12 22:39 -0500
            Re: Negative Gravity? HGW <hw@....> - 2016-09-14 08:16 +1000
              Re: Negative Gravity? Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-09-13 18:26 -0500
                Re: Negative Gravity? HGW <hw@....> - 2016-09-15 08:29 +1000
                Re: Negative Gravity? Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-09-14 23:23 -0500
                Re: Negative Gravity? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-09-15 15:42 +0000
                Re: Negative Gravity? Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-09-15 12:37 -0500
                Re: Negative Gravity? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-09-16 03:30 +0000
                Re: Negative Gravity? Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-09-15 23:30 -0500
                Re: Negative Gravity? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-09-16 16:23 +0000
                Re: Negative Gravity? "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-09-16 06:40 +1000
                Re: Negative Gravity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-15 16:13 -0500
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                Re: Negative Gravity? "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-09-17 04:29 +1000
                Re: Negative Gravity? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-09-16 21:05 +0000
            Re: Negative Gravity? RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2016-09-13 15:58 -0700
              Re: Negative Gravity? Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-09-13 18:40 -0500
                Re: Negative Gravity? RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2016-09-14 12:56 -0700
                Re: Negative Gravity? Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-09-14 13:34 -0700
                Re: Negative Gravity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-14 15:40 -0500
                Re: Negative Gravity? Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-09-14 23:53 -0500
                Re: Negative Gravity? RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2016-09-16 11:37 -0700
                Re: Negative Gravity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-16 14:21 -0500
                Re: Negative Gravity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-16 14:21 -0500
                Re: Negative Gravity? Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-09-16 22:25 -0500
                Re: Negative Gravity? RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2016-09-19 12:43 -0700
                Re: Negative Gravity? Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-09-19 17:01 -0500
                Re: Negative Gravity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-20 08:37 -0500
                Re: Negative Gravity? Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-09-20 09:23 -0500
                Re: Negative Gravity? RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2016-09-20 17:54 -0700
                Re: Negative Gravity? Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-09-20 20:15 -0700
                Re: Negative Gravity? RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2016-09-21 12:32 -0700
                Re: Negative Gravity? Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-09-21 15:03 -0700
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                Re: Negative Gravity? "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-09-17 04:41 +1000
                Re: Negative Gravity? Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-09-19 11:14 -0500
                Re: Negative Gravity? Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2016-10-03 23:20 -0700
  Re: Negative Gravity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-08-29 08:59 -0700
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  Re: Negative Gravity? numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2016-08-31 11:48 -0700
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