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Re: why no astronomer and physicist talks about blueshift amount Re: TALK

From Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Newsgroups sci.physics
Subject Re: why no astronomer and physicist talks about blueshift amount Re: TALK
Date 2016-08-24 15:59 -0500
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On 8/24/2016 3:31 PM, benj wrote:
> On 8/24/2016 8:26 AM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> On 8/23/2016 5:05 PM, benj wrote:
>>> On 8/23/2016 2:34 PM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>> On 8/23/2016 1:03 PM, Archimedes Plutonium wrote:
>>>>> Physics hidden embarrassement of blueshift. Astronomers for the most
>>>>> part believe in
>>>>> Doppler shift of light and they report some stars and galaxies with a
>>>>> blueshift.
>>>>>
>>>>> But they never make any sense on how a Cosmic expansion could ever
>>>>> have a blueshift,
>>>>> since every point on a balloon surface as example would be redshift,
>>>>> none blue.
>>>>
>>>> But the balloon is only an oversimplified analogy, not to be taken as
>>>> what the model is.
>>>
>>> So if the analogy is stupid then why use it and pretend it makes sense?
>>> Truth is all you establishment propagandists (what shall I call you?)
>>> all use the "balloon" model as "proof" that the Big Bang isn't bullshit,
>>> and then when it's pointed out that balloon model REQUIRES additional
>>> dimensions to work, you turn around and flatly deny the model is true. I
>>> do believe this is termed insanity.
>>
>> Ben, Ben, Ben. You obviously don't have any idea what analogies are for.
>> People like you think analogies are for saying "It's exactly like this."
>> They're not. People like you think that analogies are for making a
>> convincing argument in the truth of the proposition. They're not.  They
>> are simply there to try to HELP explain by association with something
>> related. Not the same, but related.
>
> Obviously you haven't noticed that mathematics (laws of nature) are
> analogies to reality.

Really? Who says?

> So is math more real than reality or not? I know
> what you believe.
>

No you don't. But you're prepared to lie about it.


-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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                Re: why no astronomer and physicist talks about blueshift amount Re: TALK benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-08-24 16:31 -0400
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