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Re: The laws of gravity

From Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: The laws of gravity
Date 2016-08-17 14:35 +0200
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On 08/17/2016 12:16 PM, Peter Riedt wrote:
> On Wednesday, August 17, 2016 at 5:11:48 PM UTC+8, Poutnik wrote:
>> On 08/17/2016 09:34 AM, Peter Riedt wrote:
>>> I am talking about one star (Alpha Centauri A) and two assumed planets AC1 and AC2). My theory can predict/calculate t and v of AC1 knowing r and r and v of AC2 knowing t. Knowing M is not necessary.
>>>
>>> GR can neither. Bod and Roberts also cannot.
>>
>> If there are known 2 of 3 parameters r,v,T
>> of supposedly circular orbit of small object,
>>
>> then both Newton gravity and GR can calculate
>> r,v and T of any other object
>> orbiting the same primary on circular orbit.
>>
>> BTW, in such a case the G.M  IS known implicitly.
>>
>> you have tried to rediscover America.
>
> In my example, AC1 and AC2 have a possible eccentricity of e = 0 to .99. What makes you think they must be in a circular orbit?

YOU did mark the distances as "r", what is used for circular orbits.

For ellipses, than replace the radius r with the major semi axis a
and the relations between G.M, T and "a" will remain.

But v can be calculated only for a specific point on the orbit,
not for the orbit itself.

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The laws of gravity Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-08-15 20:45 -0700
  Re: The laws of gravity Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-08-16 07:44 +0200
    Re: The laws of gravity Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-08-15 22:54 -0700
      Re: The laws of gravity Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-08-16 08:43 +0200
        Re: The laws of gravity Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-08-16 08:46 +0200
          Re: The laws of gravity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-08-15 23:52 -0700
          Re: The laws of gravity Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-08-16 00:10 -0700
            Re: The laws of gravity Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-08-16 11:01 +0200
              Re: The laws of gravity Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-08-16 19:26 -0700
                Re: The laws of gravity Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-08-17 07:06 +0200
      Re: The laws of gravity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-17 07:07 -0500
  Re: The laws of gravity Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-08-16 08:54 +0200
  Re: The laws of gravity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-08-16 20:20 +1000
    Re: The laws of gravity Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-08-16 19:29 -0700
      Re: The laws of gravity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-08-17 12:44 +1000
        Re: The laws of gravity Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-08-16 20:51 -0700
          Re: The laws of gravity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-08-17 14:49 +1000
            Re: The laws of gravity Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-08-17 00:34 -0700
              Re: The laws of gravity Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-08-17 11:11 +0200
                Re: The laws of gravity Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-08-17 03:16 -0700
                Re: The laws of gravity Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-08-17 14:35 +0200
                Re: The laws of gravity Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-08-17 07:17 -0700
                Re: The laws of gravity Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-08-17 20:22 +0200
                Re: The laws of gravity Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-08-17 17:27 -0700
                Re: The laws of gravity Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-08-18 07:30 +0200
                Re: The laws of gravity Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-08-17 13:04 +0200
              Re: The laws of gravity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-08-17 19:57 +1000
                Re: The laws of gravity Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-08-17 03:31 -0700
                Re: The laws of gravity Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-08-17 03:38 -0700
                Re: The laws of gravity Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-08-17 14:37 +0200
                Re: The laws of gravity Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-08-17 07:12 -0700
                Re: The laws of gravity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-08-18 12:14 +1000
                Re: The laws of gravity Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-08-17 19:41 -0700
                Re: The laws of gravity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-08-17 20:50 -0700
                Re: The laws of gravity Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-08-18 07:32 +0200
                Re: The laws of gravity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-08-18 12:17 +1000
              Re: The laws of gravity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-18 13:52 -0500
                Re: The laws of gravity Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-08-18 21:08 +0200
                Re: The laws of gravity Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-08-18 17:42 -0700
                Re: The laws of gravity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-08-19 12:30 +1000
                Re: The laws of gravity Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-08-18 20:05 -0700
                Re: The laws of gravity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-08-18 20:20 -0700
                Re: The laws of gravity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-08-19 13:47 +1000
                Re: The laws of gravity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-19 07:41 -0500
                Re: The laws of gravity Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-08-19 06:16 +0200
                Re: The laws of gravity Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-08-19 06:23 +0200
                Re: The laws of gravity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-19 07:37 -0500
                Re: The laws of gravity Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-08-19 06:15 +0200
                Re: The laws of gravity Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-08-18 17:37 -0700
                Re: The laws of gravity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-08-19 14:02 +1000
                Re: The laws of gravity Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-08-19 06:11 +0200
                Re: The laws of gravity Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-08-19 06:10 +0200
                Re: The laws of gravity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-19 07:22 -0500
                Re: The laws of gravity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-08-19 05:36 -0700
          Re: The laws of gravity Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-08-17 11:06 +0200
  Re: The laws of gravity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-17 07:06 -0500
    Re: The laws of gravity Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-08-17 14:40 +0200
    Re: The laws of gravity Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-08-17 07:20 -0700
      Re: The laws of gravity Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-08-17 20:24 +0200
        Re: The laws of gravity Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-08-17 17:47 -0700
          Re: The laws of gravity Virgil <VIRGIL@VIRGIL.com> - 2016-08-17 19:09 -0600
          Re: The laws of gravity Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-08-18 07:27 +0200
          Re: The laws of gravity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-18 08:37 -0500
            Re: The laws of gravity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-08-18 06:51 -0700
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