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Re: The laws of gravity

From Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: The laws of gravity
Date 2016-08-17 11:06 +0200
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On 08/17/2016 05:51 AM, Peter Riedt wrote:
> On Wednesday, August 17, 2016 at 10:44:35 AM UTC+8, Sylvia Else wrote:

>>
>> Yet you didn't give the mass of the star. As Poutnik observed this
>> suggests that your theory doesn't require the mass. Since we know that
>> orbital speeds and times depend on the star's mass, your theory must be
>> wrong.
>>
>> Sylvia.
>
> Gravity is subject to the mass of a primary (star, planet or any other body a smaller body is attracted to). My theory is based on this fact but does not need G, M or GM to predict/calcualete vtr.
>

Until you reveal you formulas,
we cannot pointed out, where they are wrong.

As they ARE wrong if they need not G, M or G.M

For a small object on circular orbit of radius r and speed v,
the needed centripetal acceleration
a_cp = v^2 / r = (2.pi.r/ T)^2 / r  = 4.pi^2. r / T^2

For a small object orbiting on circular orbit the object of mass M,
the gravitational acceleration of classical gravity is
a_gr = G.M/r^2

As a_gr must be equal a_cp,

therefore for v:

v^2 / r = G.M/r^2
v = sqrt (G.M / r)

resp. for T >

4.pi^2. r / T^2 = G.M/r^2
4.pi^2. r^3 = G.M . T^2
T = sqrt ( 4.pi^2. r^3 / (G.M))


And now, tell us,
how can you calculate v or T from r without G and M or G.M..



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The laws of gravity Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-08-15 20:45 -0700
  Re: The laws of gravity Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-08-16 07:44 +0200
    Re: The laws of gravity Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-08-15 22:54 -0700
      Re: The laws of gravity Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-08-16 08:43 +0200
        Re: The laws of gravity Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-08-16 08:46 +0200
          Re: The laws of gravity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-08-15 23:52 -0700
          Re: The laws of gravity Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-08-16 00:10 -0700
            Re: The laws of gravity Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-08-16 11:01 +0200
              Re: The laws of gravity Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-08-16 19:26 -0700
                Re: The laws of gravity Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-08-17 07:06 +0200
      Re: The laws of gravity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-17 07:07 -0500
  Re: The laws of gravity Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-08-16 08:54 +0200
  Re: The laws of gravity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-08-16 20:20 +1000
    Re: The laws of gravity Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-08-16 19:29 -0700
      Re: The laws of gravity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-08-17 12:44 +1000
        Re: The laws of gravity Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-08-16 20:51 -0700
          Re: The laws of gravity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-08-17 14:49 +1000
            Re: The laws of gravity Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-08-17 00:34 -0700
              Re: The laws of gravity Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-08-17 11:11 +0200
                Re: The laws of gravity Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-08-17 03:16 -0700
                Re: The laws of gravity Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-08-17 14:35 +0200
                Re: The laws of gravity Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-08-17 07:17 -0700
                Re: The laws of gravity Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-08-17 20:22 +0200
                Re: The laws of gravity Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-08-17 17:27 -0700
                Re: The laws of gravity Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-08-18 07:30 +0200
                Re: The laws of gravity Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-08-17 13:04 +0200
              Re: The laws of gravity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-08-17 19:57 +1000
                Re: The laws of gravity Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-08-17 03:31 -0700
                Re: The laws of gravity Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-08-17 03:38 -0700
                Re: The laws of gravity Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-08-17 14:37 +0200
                Re: The laws of gravity Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-08-17 07:12 -0700
                Re: The laws of gravity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-08-18 12:14 +1000
                Re: The laws of gravity Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-08-17 19:41 -0700
                Re: The laws of gravity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-08-17 20:50 -0700
                Re: The laws of gravity Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-08-18 07:32 +0200
                Re: The laws of gravity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-08-18 12:17 +1000
              Re: The laws of gravity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-18 13:52 -0500
                Re: The laws of gravity Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-08-18 21:08 +0200
                Re: The laws of gravity Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-08-18 17:42 -0700
                Re: The laws of gravity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-08-19 12:30 +1000
                Re: The laws of gravity Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-08-18 20:05 -0700
                Re: The laws of gravity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-08-18 20:20 -0700
                Re: The laws of gravity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-08-19 13:47 +1000
                Re: The laws of gravity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-19 07:41 -0500
                Re: The laws of gravity Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-08-19 06:16 +0200
                Re: The laws of gravity Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-08-19 06:23 +0200
                Re: The laws of gravity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-19 07:37 -0500
                Re: The laws of gravity Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-08-19 06:15 +0200
                Re: The laws of gravity Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-08-18 17:37 -0700
                Re: The laws of gravity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-08-19 14:02 +1000
                Re: The laws of gravity Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-08-19 06:11 +0200
                Re: The laws of gravity Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-08-19 06:10 +0200
                Re: The laws of gravity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-19 07:22 -0500
                Re: The laws of gravity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-08-19 05:36 -0700
          Re: The laws of gravity Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-08-17 11:06 +0200
  Re: The laws of gravity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-17 07:06 -0500
    Re: The laws of gravity Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-08-17 14:40 +0200
    Re: The laws of gravity Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-08-17 07:20 -0700
      Re: The laws of gravity Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-08-17 20:24 +0200
        Re: The laws of gravity Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-08-17 17:47 -0700
          Re: The laws of gravity Virgil <VIRGIL@VIRGIL.com> - 2016-08-17 19:09 -0600
          Re: The laws of gravity Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-08-18 07:27 +0200
          Re: The laws of gravity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-18 08:37 -0500
            Re: The laws of gravity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-08-18 06:51 -0700
          Re: The laws of gravity "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-22 06:36 -0700

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