For John Sefton: Boyd Bushman and acting like a scientist

From	Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
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Subject	For John Sefton: Boyd Bushman and acting like a scientist
Date	2016-08-08 16:33 -0500
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VA3HV_gfq80
In this video, Body Bushman declares certain things:
0:55-"The person that I contact twice to three times per month is the 
head of that program now. And they continually update me on everything 
they possibly can."
1:40-"So that's what began about thirteen years ago." [i.e. 2001]
2:00-"Follow the data, theory be damned....Therefore, everything that I 
present here will be data that comes directly from them, through me, to 
you." [Note that Bushman is not claiming having taken the data or having 
any first-hand knowledge of how the data was collected.]
9:20-"Since I actually physically gave them my camera, they actually 
took this photo as the UFO was departing." [This is a claim that humans 
at Area 51 took photos with Bushman's camera.] "Also when UFOs come in, 
we have a heads-up display for our pilots, they do too. This is what 
their pilots see in order to tell them how to come into Area 51 and 
land." [This is a claim that aliens at Area 51 took photos with 
Bushman's camera.]
10:40-"To my surprise, when I asked them [Bushman is implying the "them" 
is aliens] how fast they take to get from that, it should be 68,000 
years to make it according to Einstein, but they are able to make it to 
us in 45 [minutes]. So I gave them [aliens] an assignment to photograph 
the planets from space as they were coming back, and they did that."
12:00-"I asked them to take pictures of the power unit on the bottom, up 
close and personal, they gave me this. That's when my camera looks into 
the power center of the UFO." [Here the "they" is not clear.]
12:50-"Now I asked them to tell me about who was flying these things. He 
therefore said 'Fine'..." [Bushman holds up what is now known to be a 
photo of a toy purchasable at WalMart. [The "them" here are the humans 
at Area 51.]
13:28-"They have five fingers, five toes, two eyes." [Note that the 
alien autopsy alien has six fingers, six toes.]
18:30-"This is a picture of their home planet, which they call 
Quintonia." [Holds up a picture taken with Bushman's camera, presumably 
taken by an alien.]
19:06-"This process introduced me, directly or indirectly, to Dr. 
Teller's work with a group that still is in charge of Area 51 and 
equivalent. Turned out to be a doctor, very fine gentleman. I was 
carrying on a conversation with him, and he saw how the subject was 
going, so he simply said, 'Well, you need to know what I did' one day." 
[Bushman is here claiming that he's about to relate second-hand 
information, not first-hand information. This then proceeds to turn out 
to be third-hand information, the doctor telling what an anonymous pilot 
reported to him, and then passing this story on to Bushman.]
25:28-"They kept giving me pieces of UFOs, and I would come to my 
laboratories." [Now he is claiming first hand contact with UFO material, 
but only shows photos, rather than being able to allow someone else to 
confirm the data with the same samples in his possession.]
27:50-"The team took a piece of UFO and connected it up like this and 
was able to have a complete laboratory operate for six months with heavy 
equipment." [Boyd quotes 249V and up to 12 amperes, which is 3 kW, which 
is about the same as two hair dryers and a microwave oven, about what 
you'd expect in an average home during the day: 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domestic_energy_consumption. Not exactly a 
"complete laboratory with heavy equipment".]
29:15-"Here is what Area 51 was giving to me since the year 2000 and 
beyond." [Again, Boyd is declaring no direct first-hand knowledge.]

Bottom line: Boyd Bushman declares that he only believes that which can 
be confirmed by direct physical test, and then he reports a bunch of 
2nd-hand and 3rd-hand information that he can not confirm himself. Is 
this the way that scientists should report findings?






-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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