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Re: Jazelle?

From rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com>
Newsgroups comp.sys.raspberry-pi, comp.lang.forth
Subject Re: Jazelle?
Date 2016-07-20 10:56 -0400
Organization A noiseless patient Spider
Message-ID <nmo3fd$q3d$2@dont-email.me> (permalink)
References <nmi8on$34p$1@dont-email.me> <nmmged$bm8$2@dont-email.me> <nmn4gf$p1o$2@news.albasani.net> <MPG.31f93e8b429c8383989804@172.16.0.1> <nmnge0$rri$1@dont-email.me>

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On 7/20/2016 5:31 AM, gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339 wrote:
> "Paul" <paul@pcserviceselectronics.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:MPG.31f93e8b429c8383989804@172.16.0.1...
>> In article <nmn4gf$p1o$2@news.albasani.net>, tnp@invalid.invalid says...
>>> On 20/07/16 01:25, rickman wrote:
>>>> On 7/18/2016 5:50 AM, gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339 wrote:
>>>>> I wonder if anyone has done any experiments to determine what the
>>>>> Jazelle byte codes are, for use of such things should produce code
>>>>> that is even more compact than Thumb?
>>>>>
>>>>> e.g single steppint code and then examining the changes that have
>>>>> been wrought by each code, allowing for some extra bytes as
>>>>> addresses or immediate data.
>>>>
>>>> If you want high code density, you should learn Forth.  It can support
>>>> a
>>>> complete Forth compiler in as little as 16 kB.
>>>>
>>> Indeed. More compact than assembler really!
>
> But Forth _IS_ assembler, for it is based on the prior published
> art of the KDF9 computer architecture along with its drop, dup, data and
> return stacks.

Why do you say Forth is based on any particular computer design?  Forth 
emulates an abstract stack based CPU.  The KDF9 is one of many which had 
been designed by the time Forth was invented.

-- 

Rick C

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Jazelle? "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2016-07-18 10:50 +0100
  Re: Jazelle? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2016-07-19 20:25 -0400
    Re: Jazelle? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2016-07-20 07:08 +0100
      Re: Jazelle? Paul <paul@pcserviceselectronics.co.uk> - 2016-07-20 08:54 +0100
        Re: Jazelle? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2016-07-20 09:29 +0100
          Re: Jazelle? Gordon Henderson <gordon+usenet@drogon.net> - 2016-07-20 12:56 +0000
            Re: Jazelle? "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2016-07-20 14:54 +0100
              Re: Jazelle? Folderol <general@musically.me.uk> - 2016-07-20 18:40 +0100
                Re: Jazelle? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2016-07-20 19:12 +0100
                Re: Jazelle? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2016-07-20 15:17 -0400
                Re: Jazelle? "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2016-07-20 20:32 +0100
                Re: Jazelle? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2016-07-20 15:37 -0400
                CAN / LIN auto bus (was Jazelle?) jeffj@panix.com (Jeff Jonas) - 2016-07-20 17:53 -0400
                Re: CAN / LIN auto bus (was Jazelle?) Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2016-07-20 22:28 +0000
                Re: CAN / LIN auto bus (was Jazelle?) druck <news@druck.org.uk> - 2016-07-20 23:37 +0100
          Re: Jazelle? alister <alister.ware@ntlworld.com> - 2016-07-20 13:34 +0000
            Re: Jazelle? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2016-07-20 10:26 -0400
            Re: Jazelle? Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-07-20 19:51 -0400
        Re: Jazelle? "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2016-07-20 10:31 +0100
          Re: Jazelle? anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2016-07-20 10:14 +0000
            Re: Jazelle? "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2016-07-20 14:49 +0100
              Re: Jazelle? anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2016-07-20 14:35 +0000
                Re: Jazelle? mm0fmf <none@invalid.com> - 2016-07-20 17:39 +0100
                Re: Jazelle? "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2016-07-20 20:30 +0100
                Re: Jazelle? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2016-07-20 15:35 -0400
                Re: Jazelle? "WJ" <w_a_x_man@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-21 10:43 +0000
                Re: Jazelle? anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2016-07-21 12:44 +0000
                Re: Jazelle? "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2016-07-21 22:59 +0100
                Re: Jazelle? anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2016-07-22 06:42 +0000
                Re: Jazelle? "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2016-07-22 12:03 +0100
                Re: Jazelle? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2016-07-22 09:05 -0400
                Re: Jazelle? Tauno Voipio <tauno.voipio@notused.fi.invalid> - 2016-07-22 19:20 +0300
                Re: Jazelle? "WJ" <w_a_x_man@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-25 10:43 +0000
                Re: Jazelle? "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2016-07-26 11:41 +0100
          Re: Jazelle? Doug Hoffman <glidedog@gmail.com> - 2016-07-20 06:44 -0400
            Re: Jazelle? "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2016-07-20 14:52 +0100
              Re: Jazelle? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2016-07-20 10:52 -0400
                Re: Jazelle? alister <alister.ware@ntlworld.com> - 2016-07-20 15:40 +0000
                Re: Jazelle? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2016-07-20 11:46 -0400
            Re: Jazelle? Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2016-07-21 01:27 +0000
              Re: Jazelle? "A. Dumas" <alexandre@dumas.fr.invalid> - 2016-07-21 05:58 +0200
                Re: Jazelle? colonel_hack@yahoo.com - 2016-07-21 16:29 -0700
                Re: Jazelle? "A. Dumas" <alexandre@dumas.fr.invalid> - 2016-07-22 01:56 +0200
                Re: Jazelle? colonel_hack@yahoo.com - 2016-07-22 14:04 -0700
                Re: Jazelle? "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2016-07-22 11:59 +0100
          Re: Jazelle? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2016-07-20 10:56 -0400
      Re: Jazelle? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2016-07-20 10:24 -0400
    Re: Jazelle? Theo Markettos <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2016-07-20 14:38 +0100
      Re: Jazelle? "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2016-07-20 14:57 +0100
        Re: Jazelle? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2016-07-20 10:53 -0400

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