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Re: WINNERS - June 2016 Usenet Kook Awards

From Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid>
Newsgroups alt.checkmate, alt.philosophy.checkmate, alt.free.newsservers
Subject Re: WINNERS - June 2016 Usenet Kook Awards
Date 2016-07-11 20:45 +0000
Organization A noiseless patient Spider
Message-ID <nm10hq$mg6$38@dont-email.me> (permalink)
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On Mon, 11 Jul 2016 05:39:17 -0400, kensi wrote:

> On 10/07/2016 6:42 PM, Nadegda wrote:
> 
>> Doesn't your own multiverse + anthropics hypothesis throw a monkey
>> wrench into that? With that, humans necessarily wake up to find
>> themselves in a branch where no earlier civilization set one of these
>> doomsday devices off, but that needn't be because one setting one off
>> is impossible or even improbable. In fact if most civilizations
>> eventually do this it would explain the Fermi paradox. Each one is the
>> first, and last, in its Hubble volume, modulo quantum branches.
> 
> Branches arising from the symmetry breaking era that wind up with
> particle physics such that such doomsday devices are easily made at
> relatively low tech levels and commonly get set off by species with
> anger (or delusion) management issues will have lower populations by far
> than branches with physics forbidding such devices or making them
> sufficiently difficult to build. Thus we're much more likely to observe
> one of the latter branches, and should discover that in this region of
> the multiverse, making such devices is hard. (It's probably not
> impossible; that pesky dark energy suggests that our vacuum here is not
> entirely stable.)

Oh. Good point. I'd forgotten that some of what we consider to be "the 
laws of physics" were actually set by some sort of cooling process in the 
early universe, and might have gone differently (and therefore went lots 
of ways, if quantum branching is real).

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Re: WINNERS - June 2016 Usenet Kook Awards "Sir Gregory Hall, Esq." <greghall@yacht_master.fake> - 2016-07-01 19:42 -0400
  Re: WINNERS - June 2016 Usenet Kook Awards "Checkmate, DoW #1" <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> - 2016-07-01 16:53 -0700
    Re: WINNERS - June 2016 Usenet Kook Awards Janithor <Janithor@comcast.net> - 2016-07-01 16:55 -0700
    Re: WINNERS - June 2016 Usenet Kook Awards "Sir Gregory Hall, Esq." <greghall@yacht_master.fake> - 2016-07-01 20:20 -0400
      Re: WINNERS - June 2016 Usenet Kook Awards Janithor <Janithor@comcast.net> - 2016-07-01 17:59 -0700
        Re: WINNERS - June 2016 Usenet Kook Awards BBB DoW #14 <r0llinThru@none.invalid> - 2016-07-02 22:11 +1000
      Re: WINNERS - June 2016 Usenet Kook Awards "Checkmate, DoW #1" <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> - 2016-07-01 20:26 -0700
        Re: WINNERS - June 2016 Usenet Kook Awards BBB DoW #14 <r0llinThru@none.invalid> - 2016-07-09 19:21 +1000
          Re: WINNERS - June 2016 Usenet Kook Awards vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2016-07-09 09:36 +0000
            Re: WINNERS - June 2016 Usenet Kook Awards BBB DoW #14 <r0llinThru@none.invalid> - 2016-07-09 19:52 +1000
              Re: WINNERS - June 2016 Usenet Kook Awards "\"Fakey's\" dogwhistle holder living at 5907 Stanton Ave., Pittsburgh, PA (aka Teh Mop  Jockey), socked up as 5907 Stanton Avenue, Pittsburgh, PA 15206-2117" <root@127.0.0.1> - 2016-07-09 12:16 -0400
              Re: WINNERS - June 2016 Usenet Kook Awards Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2016-07-09 20:30 +0000
        Re: WINNERS - June 2016 Usenet Kook Awards "Checkmate, DoW #1" <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> - 2016-07-09 14:01 -0700
          Re: WINNERS - June 2016 Usenet Kook Awards Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2016-07-09 21:15 +0000
            Re: WINNERS - June 2016 Usenet Kook Awards kensi <kkensington01@gmail.invalid> - 2016-07-10 14:24 -0400
              Re: WINNERS - June 2016 Usenet Kook Awards "Checkmate, DoW #1" <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> - 2016-07-10 12:32 -0700
                Re: WINNERS - June 2016 Usenet Kook Awards Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2016-07-10 22:44 +0000
                Re: WINNERS - June 2016 Usenet Kook Awards "Checkmate, DoW #1" <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> - 2016-07-10 15:53 -0700
              Re: WINNERS - June 2016 Usenet Kook Awards Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2016-07-10 22:42 +0000
                Re: WINNERS - June 2016 Usenet Kook Awards kensi <kkensington01@gmail.invalid> - 2016-07-11 05:39 -0400
                Re: WINNERS - June 2016 Usenet Kook Awards Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2016-07-11 20:45 +0000
                Re: WINNERS - June 2016 Usenet Kook Awards kensi <kkensington01@gmail.invalid> - 2016-07-12 05:23 -0400
                Re: WINNERS - June 2016 Usenet Kook Awards Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2016-07-12 20:19 +0000
  Re: WINNERS - June 2016 Usenet Kook Awards kensi <kkensington01@gmail.invalid> - 2016-07-05 11:03 -0400
    Re: WINNERS - June 2016 Usenet Kook Awards Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2016-07-05 21:32 +0000

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