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Re: HTTP/2 stole my Applet

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On 20/06/2016 20:01, Richard Maher wrote:

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>> Trying to turn this into a Spirit-ed debate, RIchard?

> Anyway Led Zeppelin are heading for a fall and with over $550million
> in revenue to date, it's going to cost 'em big time.
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXMYb93EW2s

Well, as a composer myself, I find all these lawsuits rather pointless, 
tedious and (mostly) entirely unwarranted.

In this case, the lineage of the opening chord progression in "Stairway 
to Heaven" could arguably be quite possibly linked to the composer of 
the other progression in question here. But, even if Plant/Page used it 
as a form of "inspiration", their "version" is (in my mind) sufficiently 
different (and actually) better than that from which it was supposedly 
copied to be far out of the reach of greedy litigious morons.

Now, if you take these lawsuits to the ridiculous and yet obvious 
conclusion, imagine how many TENS OF THOUSANDS of such claims would be 
being made by whoever the original composer of the classic 12-bar-blues 
progression was.  Let's face it, it was used in the vast majority of pop 
hits from the 50s and 60s and is STILL being copied chord-for-chord to 
this very day.

Even the incredibly talented and extremely creative and original 
phenomenon that was The Beatles used it a couple of times themselves 
(albeit rather cleverly, as you would expect). The verses of "Can't Buy 
Me Love" are just one such example.

Yet how many people have been sued for using this cliched progression? 
Well, none that I am aware of. But hey, whoever owns the rights to the 
original song could step up right now and become an instant trillionaire!

Really, the day that anyone composes something truly "original" in 
either the pop or rock music genres, I will eat my three day old socks.

Even Gaga *admitted* that "Born This Way" was a *direct copy* of the 
chords used in Madonna's hit "Express Yourself".  Has she been sued??? 
No. She justified it by saying "They were great chords, it was just time 
they got a slightly different melody and new lyrics".

> If you think the case is ridiculous and doesn't have a hope of getting
> up just look to the precedence of Men at Work "The land down under"
> http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/music
> /men-at-works-colin-hay-says-down-under-lawsuit-contributed-to-death-of-
> his-dad-and-bandmate/news-story/db47d17797386c960b7a7737974ea1ce
>
> I doubt many who didn't attend primary school in Oz know "kookaburra
> sits in the old gum tree" but the similarity with the flute-break is
> uncanny. Well, the judge thought so.

This is perhaps the most ludicrous of the entire bunch.

For a start, no one even *knew* that "Kookaburra Sits in the Old Gum 
Tree" was anything other than just a public-domain "folk/cultural" song 
and I can assure you that Men at Work had absolutely no idea that there 
was any possibility of it being "copyrighted" or protected in some way.

And, I can also absolutely assure you that they did not in *any way* 
even use this classic Aussie tune as either a basis for the flute break, 
an inspiration for it or were even thinking about it AT ALL when they 
wrote "Down Under".  The musical differences are so striking that it 
utterly defies logic to actually even permit the litigation to proceed 
(let alone succeed), and, to even lead to the tragic death of a band member.

> PPS. Did no one pause to look at my code and be dumbstruck by its
> sheer beauty long enough to stroke my ego?

I would have - but I wasn't aware your ego needed any "stroking"...

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-Qu0ll (Rare, not extinct)
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HTTP/2 stole my Applet Richard Maher <maher_rjSPAMLESS@hotmail.com> - 2016-06-17 16:56 +0800
  Re: HTTP/2 stole my Applet   VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG - 2016-06-17 10:58 +0000
    Re: HTTP/2 stole my Applet Richard Maher <maherrj@gmail.com> - 2016-06-20 18:01 +0800
      Re: HTTP/2 stole my Applet helbig@asclothestro.multivax.de (Phillip Helbig (undress to reply)) - 2016-06-20 19:28 +0000
      Re: HTTP/2 stole my Applet Qu0ll <qu0ll64@gmail.com> - 2016-06-21 17:39 +1000
        Re: HTTP/2 stole my Applet lawrencedo99@gmail.com - 2016-06-22 03:25 -0700
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  Re: HTTP/2 stole my Applet Qu0ll <qu0ll64@gmail.com> - 2016-06-18 03:36 +1000
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              Re: HTTP/2 stole my Applet Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2016-06-19 09:00 +0200
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                Re: HTTP/2 stole my Applet Bill Gunshannon <bill.gunshannon@gmail.com> - 2016-06-19 16:06 -0400
                Re: HTTP/2 stole my Applet lawrencedo99@gmail.com - 2016-06-22 03:21 -0700
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