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Re: _The Borrowed World: A Novel of Post-Apocalyptic Collapse_ (Volume 1) by Franklin Horton

From Lynn McGuire <lmc@winsim.com>
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Subject Re: _The Borrowed World: A Novel of Post-Apocalyptic Collapse_ (Volume 1) by Franklin Horton
Date 2016-06-03 16:10 -0500
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On 6/3/2016 3:33 PM, Don Bruder wrote:
> In article <nisgtd$rv2$1@dont-email.me>, Lynn McGuire <lmc@winsim.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On 6/2/2016 8:14 PM, Don Kuenz wrote:
>>> Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> wrote:
>>>> In article <20160602a@crcomp.net>, Don Kuenz <garbage@crcomp.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Although Horton may use poetic license to dramatize the pyrotechnics in
>>>>> _The Borrowed World_, militants blow up petroleum infrastructure all of
>>>>> the time.
>>>>
>>>> <snipped your links - true, false, right, wrong, or otherwise, they
>>>> simply aren't relevant>
>>>>
>>>> Yeah, so? What's that got to do with whether shooting at a tank farm is
>>>> likely to produce an explosion? (I think we've pretty much reached the
>>>> consensus that it PROBABLY won't unless unusual conditions exist.)
>>>
>>> Consensus? You guys sat down in front of your PCs and reached a
>>> consensus? That's absolutely beautiful.
>>>
>>> Did you ever visit a plant and feel those big old two foot diameter
>>> steel pipes quiver from the pressure? Then you see the flareup and hear
>>> the alarm.
>>>
>>> At first you tell yourself, "It's probably not an alarm. It's just my
>>> overactive imagination."
>>>
>>> The phone rings. You pick it up and the voice on the other end asks,
>>> "What set off the alarm?"
>>>
>>> You tell the voice on the other end that you're electronics technician
>>> dispatched to fix the communications end of a remote controller. There's
>>> nobody else around and you don't know the first thing about plants. How
>>> does the voice expect you to know what just set off the alarm? You plead
>>> with the voice on the other end to fix whatever just broke.
>>>
>>> The voice says that it's probably nothing so don't worry. Then the voice
>>> hangs up. But the alarm keeps sounding in your ears...
>>>
>>> Explosive thoughts fill my mind anywhere within a ten mile radius of a
>>> plant. May your consensus protect you.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Don Kuenz KB7RPU
>>
>> I drove into my power plant on fire back in 1983 when I was a junior
>> engineer.  That was ... impressive.  We melted a 24 MVA
>
> Lemme check something here - this isn't me doubting you, it's me not
> sure whether I'm remembering old knowledge right: 24MVA = 1 amp at 24
> million (modulo the preferred interpretation of "mega", of course)
> volts?
>
> My "big volts" knowledge, what there is of it, comes from living next
> door to a fellow who got his start as a hi-volts lineman and worked his
> way up to the impressive title of "licensed generating station
> operator". We yacked about the topic often - About 20 years ago. I'm
> *MUCH* more competent down in the 5-30 volts DC playground.
>
>> utilities transformer to the ground (a 15 ft by 15 ft by 20 ft high
>> transformer).  And melted the accompanying copper bus bars and
>> switchgear.  We had a direct phase to phase short on a 26,000 volt three
>> phase generator running at 300 MW and capable of 580 MW.
>> That was a bad day BUT no one got hurt.
>
> Ouch... Bad day indeed. I may not know a lot, but I DO know that much
> "oomph" is gonna make a mess when it goes where it shouldn't. I'm
> betting the genny was re-rated to "toast"?

That particular transformer was 24 MVA = 26,000 volts at 920+ amps.  It transformed the three phase generator power from 26,000 volts 
down to the 4,160 volts for all of the equipment belonging to that plant.  Usually around 6 or 7 MVA unless we were running the 
boiler startup feed pump with it's 10,000 hp electric motor.  That added on another 8 MVA if I remember correctly.

The steam turbine generator actually survived the event.  The unit utility transformer took the hit and basically melted.  I do not 
remember where the fault actually occurred, either in the copper bus bar or in the transformer itself.  The main transformer survived 
also, rated 600 MVA if I remember correctly.  She transformed 26,000 volts to 345,000 volts.

We ran a 480 volt three phase 6/0 wire patch cable from the #5 unit to the dead unit, #6, and got #6's base utilities back up 
including the ultra important steam turbine turning gear (dont want no shaft bow from a hot turbine).  I got to help with that (all 
hands on deck!).  We wired that three phase 6/0 wire patch cable LIVE between the units as the #5 and #4 units were holding our west 
Texas grid together.  Me and another guy had ropes tied on the electrician connecting that 6/0 three phase cable to the #5 switch 
gear.  Just in case he went live.

We then got a couple of temporary 4,160 volt circuit breakers and a whole lot of copper bus bar from other plants in the system.  We 
were back up in two weeks.  This was in July of 1983 in the west Texas city of Colorado City.  You don't want to be down in July in 
Texas.  Momma gotta have her air conditioning.

Lynn

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            Re: _The Borrowed World: A Novel of Post-Apocalyptic Collapse_ (Volume 1) by Franklin Horton Lynn McGuire <lmc@winsim.com> - 2016-06-01 16:07 -0500
              Re: _The Borrowed World: A Novel of Post-Apocalyptic Collapse_ (Volume 1) by Franklin Horton Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2016-06-01 15:53 -0700
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