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| From | Lynn McGuire <lmc@winsim.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | rec.arts.sf.written |
| Subject | Re: _The Borrowed World: A Novel of Post-Apocalyptic Collapse_ (Volume 1) by Franklin Horton |
| Date | 2016-06-03 15:45 -0500 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
| Message-ID | <nisqa3$up9$1@dont-email.me> (permalink) |
| References | (15 earlier) <niqrgc$7pt$1@dont-email.me> <nisgev$pgj$1@dont-email.me> <XnsA61C705FED97Ftaustingmail@69.16.179.42> <nishhc$uc8$1@dont-email.me> <XnsA61C785EB2770taustingmail@69.16.179.43> |
On 6/3/2016 1:49 PM, Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy wrote:
> Lynn McGuire <lmc@winsim.com> wrote in
> news:nishhc$uc8$1@dont-email.me:
>
>> On 6/3/2016 1:02 PM, Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy wrote:
>>> Lynn McGuire <lmc@winsim.com> wrote in
>>> news:nisgev$pgj$1@dont-email.me:
>>>
>>>> On 6/2/2016 9:54 PM, Don Bruder wrote:
>>>>> In article <XnsA61BCD5C19430melchizedek@216.166.97.131>,
>>>>> Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> wrote in
>>>>>> news:niqg8u$k9s$1@dont-email.me:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In article <20160602a@crcomp.net>, Don Kuenz
>>>>>>> <garbage@crcomp.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Although Horton may use poetic license to dramatize the
>>>>>>>> pyrotechnics in _The Borrowed World_, militants blow up
>>>>>>>> petroleum infrastructure all of the time.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <snipped your links - true, false, right, wrong, or
>>>>>>> otherwise, they simply aren't relevant>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yeah, so? What's that got to do with whether shooting at a
>>>>>>> tank farm is likely to produce an explosion? (I think we've
>>>>>>> pretty much reached the consensus that it PROBABLY won't
>>>>>>> unless unusual conditions exist.)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Here's Lynn's original quote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Each team hit one target using 81 mm mortars stolen from
>>>>>> Guard units. The book had the three biggest refineries in
>>>>>> the USA were hit in their tank farms which spread back into
>>>>>> the refining equipment. "
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No explosion required. I argued that the earthen berms
>>>>>> surrounding tanks would prevent the 'spread'.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> pt
>>>>>
>>>>> Oops, my bad in that context. Last time I was paying
>>>>> attention, the question seemed to have shifted into the realm
>>>>> of "Would hitting a tank with a mortar make the tank blow up?
>>>>> and maybe cause others to go off?"
>>>>>
>>>>> Which, as I noted, seems to have been hashed out to "probably
>>>>> not" elsethread.
>>>>>
>>>>> As far as the fire (if one actually occurred) from such an
>>>>> act being able to spread back into the refining equipment,
>>>>> I'd expect that to be another unlikely occurrence. I'd be
>>>>> shocked stupid to find that there isn't some regulation to
>>>>> the tune of "tanks must be located no less than X feet away
>>>>> from the cracking process", where "X" is some ?reasonable?
>>>>> distance some governmental body (OSHA?) considers adequate to
>>>>> keep either one from setting the other aflame if it catches -
>>>>> regardless of why it might catch. And I'd be just as
>>>>> surprised if there wasn't also a regulation requiring some
>>>>> sort of automatically operated
>>>>> "keep-a-fire-in-the-line-from-spreading" device in the lines
>>>>> between the tank farm and the cracker(s). I'd have to agree
>>>>> with you - I'd expect fire in a tank farm to be unlikely
>>>>> to spread to the refining operation. Or the other way around,
>>>>> for that matter.
>>>>
>>>> Most USA refineries are over 50 years old and laid out before
>>>> any regulations. There has only been one refinery built in
>>>> the last 30 years in the USA.
>>>>
>>> And, of course, it's literally physically impossible for anyone
>>> to ever upgrade anything in any way, so every single one of
>>> them is exactly the same as the day it was built, eh?
>>
>> Once laid out, it is very difficult (and expensive) to change a
>> large plant like that.
>
> Petrochemical companies make lots of money. And safety features
> don't always (or even generally) require rebuilding the entire
> plant. Adding berms between tanks, changing out valves to add more
> automated shutdown features, that sort of thing.
>
>> If the refinery is not operating then
>> they are losing money.
>
> Maintance, repairs and upgrades are part of the schedule.
>
>> In fact, most refineries are rarely 100%
>> shutdown.
>
> Most refineries don't need to be for scheduled stuff. Nor do they
> need to be to do safety feature upgrades.
>
>> Just about the only time one is ever 100% shutdown is
>> a power failure as most refineries generate their own power but
>> use the grid for frequency and voltage regulation.
>>
>> Sure, the layout can be changed but it is difficult. And most
>> of the large (500,000+ barrels/day) refineries in the USA are
>> approaching 100 years of age.
>>
> Layout doesn't need to be changed to incorporate new technology and
> new safety equipment. It's rather idiotic to suggest it does.
Um, wrong. Starting one unit while working on the next unit can be fairly dangerous. Admittedly, BP had been told to get rid of the
vent stacks for years. I'm sure that their planned removal technique did not include explosion.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_City_Refinery_explosion
Lynn
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Re: _The Borrowed World: A Novel of Post-Apocalyptic Collapse_ (Volume 1) by Franklin Horton Lynn McGuire <lmc@winsim.com> - 2016-06-01 16:48 -0500
Re: _The Borrowed World: A Novel of Post-Apocalyptic Collapse_ (Volume 1) by Franklin Horton "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-06-01 20:18 -0400
Re: _The Borrowed World: A Novel of Post-Apocalyptic Collapse_ (Volume 1) by Franklin Horton Lynn McGuire <lmc@winsim.com> - 2016-06-01 22:13 -0500
Re: _The Borrowed World: A Novel of Post-Apocalyptic Collapse_ (Volume 1) by Franklin Horton Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2016-06-01 21:38 -0700
Re: _The Borrowed World: A Novel of Post-Apocalyptic Collapse_ (Volume 1) by Franklin Horton Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2016-06-01 22:25 -0700
Re: _The Borrowed World: A Novel of Post-Apocalyptic Collapse_ (Volume 1) by Franklin Horton Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-06-01 22:47 -0700
Re: _The Borrowed World: A Novel of Post-Apocalyptic Collapse_ (Volume 1) by Franklin Horton "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-06-02 22:57 -0400
Re: _The Borrowed World: A Novel of Post-Apocalyptic Collapse_ (Volume 1) by Franklin Horton Lynn McGuire <lmc@winsim.com> - 2016-06-02 11:42 -0500
Re: _The Borrowed World: A Novel of Post-Apocalyptic Collapse_ (Volume 1) by Franklin Horton Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-06-01 14:50 -0700
Re: _The Borrowed World: A Novel of Post-Apocalyptic Collapse_ (Volume 1) by Franklin Horton Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2016-06-01 13:48 -0700
Re: _The Borrowed World: A Novel of Post-Apocalyptic Collapse_ (Volume 1) by Franklin Horton Lynn McGuire <lmc@winsim.com> - 2016-06-01 16:07 -0500
Re: _The Borrowed World: A Novel of Post-Apocalyptic Collapse_ (Volume 1) by Franklin Horton Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2016-06-01 15:53 -0700
Re: _The Borrowed World: A Novel of Post-Apocalyptic Collapse_ (Volume 1) by Franklin Horton Lynn McGuire <lmc@winsim.com> - 2016-06-01 19:12 -0500
Re: _The Borrowed World: A Novel of Post-Apocalyptic Collapse_ (Volume 1) by Franklin Horton Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> - 2016-06-01 20:01 -0500
Re: _The Borrowed World: A Novel of Post-Apocalyptic Collapse_ (Volume 1) by Franklin Horton scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-06-02 13:20 +0000
Re: _The Borrowed World: A Novel of Post-Apocalyptic Collapse_ (Volume 1) by Franklin Horton Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2016-06-02 08:10 -0700
Re: _The Borrowed World: A Novel of Post-Apocalyptic Collapse_ (Volume 1) by Franklin Horton Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-06-01 14:47 -0700
Re: _The Borrowed World: A Novel of Post-Apocalyptic Collapse_ (Volume 1) by Franklin Horton "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2016-06-02 06:44 -0400
Re: _The Borrowed World: A Novel of Post-Apocalyptic Collapse_ (Volume 1) by Franklin Horton news{@bestley.co.uk (Mark Bestley) - 2016-06-02 14:02 +0100
Re: _The Borrowed World: A Novel of Post-Apocalyptic Collapse_ (Volume 1) by Franklin Horton scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-06-02 13:23 +0000
Re: _The Borrowed World: A Novel of Post-Apocalyptic Collapse_ (Volume 1) by Franklin Horton Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2016-06-01 12:38 -0700
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