Re: Is antimatter anti-gravity?

From	Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	sci.physics
Subject	Re: Is antimatter anti-gravity?
Date	2016-06-03 12:32 -0500
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On 6/3/2016 11:27 AM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> On 6/3/2016 10:07 AM, john wrote:
>> Yes
>> I have a problem
>> They're fucking wrong and wasting
>> everyone's money and fucking up the
>> planet.
>
> Who's "they"?
>
>> If they'd fucking look around at
>> the fucking devastation
>> caused by
>> the "advances" they've made
>> they'd realize.
>
> John, I will remind you that the "advances" that you are disparaging is
> TECHNOLOGY being used by CONSUMERS. That is YOU, not scientists. Air
> pollution is not caused by scientists. It is caused by people who drive
> cars and who buy house paint from chemical companies.
>
> YOU are responsible for the ills of the world. Yes, YOU.
> By being on your computer, you are burning 150 watts of energy, which
> some company has to supply to you by hook or by crook, which might mean
> burning some coal to get it to you, which might mean having to dig the
> coal out of the ground -- just because you want to be on the computer.
> By wearing shirts made out of cotton you did not grow yourself, you are
> responsible for water table lowering due to irrigation of the cotton
> farms that's required to make your shirt. If you wear clothes that have
> nylon or rayon or some other chemical-company product, God help you for
> creating that demand. If you post to this group on a cell phone, then
> YOU are responsible for cell phone towers going up in national parks and
> If YOU eat meat, then YOU are responsible for methane production in huge
> feed lots that process cattle just to get meat to your table in an
> affordable way. If YOU eat fish, then YOU are responsible for
> overfishing and the eradication of species. If you drink coffee from
> Starbucks or the grocery store, then YOU are responsible for coffee
> growers not being able to make a decent buck and their turning to making
> cocaine instead.
>
> If you want to remediate the ills of the world, John, then stop
> contributing to them. Do this by producing your own food, don't use
> electricity, don't use plastic materials in your home, for God's sake
> don't use wood harvested from live-tree logging either in your home
> framing or furniture, sell your car and start biking, if you heat your
> home with natural gas or oil or coal then better install a woodstove and
> make a sled to harvest deadwood from the terrain nearby.
>
> The ills of the world are not due to scientists, they are due to
> consumers like YOU. Face facts, man up, and do something about it. Stop
> whining at the wrong people.
>
>> Retards.
>> Anyone looking at us must be thinking
>> "Why are they letting all these
>> retards make all these awful poisons?"
>> Because that's all that ever happens
>> with the
>> "chemical solutions"
>> is -they turn out to be toxic.
>> Because
>> The
>> "Scientists"
>> Don't
>> Yet
>> Understand
>> Jack
>> Shit
>> About
>> The
>> Atom
>>
>
>

And John, just to follow up, allow me to make two further comments.

You know so little about science that you confuse TECHNOLOGY with 
SCIENCE. Those two things are NOT the same. A nuclear bomb is a 
TECHNOLOGY product, not a scientific product. Technology is using a 
scientific principle to produce a product designed for a purpose. 
Blaming science for technology is like blaming Maxwell for dropped cell 
phone calls. It's like blaming Gregor Mendel for GMO vegetables. It's 
like blaming Marie Curie for Fukishima radioactive waste. Your issues 
are not with science, they are with technology.

Secondly, there are two kinds of Luddites. There are Luddites who find 
technology to be harmful and go to the trouble of avoiding using it. The 
Amish are a good example, where they do not connect with external power 
companies and they don't buy cars. But then there are the hypocritical 
Luddites, who complain about technology and all of its ills, but they 
use it anyway -- and they fail to see the irony in that.

I now understand why you hope for a savior, whether that's God-sent or 
dropping in from other planets. You want rescue from your own 
technological sin, which you despise yourself for.

-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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  Re: Is antimatter anti-gravity? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-05-24 16:19 -0500
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            Re: Is antimatter anti-gravity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-05-25 12:25 -0500
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                Re: Is antimatter anti-gravity? HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-05-27 09:57 -0700
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                Re: Is antimatter anti-gravity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-05-27 15:04 -0500
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                Re: Is antimatter anti-gravity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-06-03 06:59 -0500
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                Re: Is antimatter anti-gravity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-06-03 07:49 -0500
                Re: Is antimatter anti-gravity? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-06-03 06:08 -0700
                Re: Is antimatter anti-gravity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-06-03 08:47 -0500
                Re: Is antimatter anti-gravity? benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-06-03 10:42 -0400
                Re: Is antimatter anti-gravity? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-06-03 08:07 -0700
                Re: Is antimatter anti-gravity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-06-03 11:27 -0500
                Re: Is antimatter anti-gravity? HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-06-03 10:07 -0700
                Re: Is antimatter anti-gravity? benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-06-03 14:25 -0400
                Re: Is antimatter anti-gravity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-06-03 12:32 -0500
                Re: Is antimatter anti-gravity? HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-06-03 08:12 -0700
                Re: Is antimatter anti-gravity? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-06-03 08:24 -0700
                Re: Is antimatter anti-gravity? HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-06-03 08:50 -0700
                Re: Is antimatter anti-gravity? benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-06-03 14:21 -0400
                Re: Is antimatter anti-gravity? "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-06-03 09:39 -0700
                Re: Is antimatter anti-gravity? benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-06-03 14:20 -0400
                Re: Is antimatter anti-gravity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-06-03 10:45 -0500
                Re: Is antimatter anti-gravity? noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-06-03 10:18 -0700
                Re: Is antimatter anti-gravity? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-06-03 10:25 -0700
                Re: Is antimatter anti-gravity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-06-03 12:44 -0500
                Re: Is antimatter anti-gravity? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-06-03 17:55 +0000
                Re: Is antimatter anti-gravity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-06-03 13:07 -0500
                Re: Is antimatter anti-gravity? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-06-03 11:17 -0700
                Re: Is antimatter anti-gravity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-06-03 13:27 -0500
                Re: Is antimatter anti-gravity? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-06-03 14:45 -0700
                Re: Is antimatter anti-gravity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-06-03 16:59 -0500
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                Re: Is antimatter anti-gravity? "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2016-06-03 08:01 -0700
              Re: Is antimatter anti-gravity? "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-05-26 10:42 -0700
                Re: Is antimatter anti-gravity? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-05-26 12:59 -0500
                Re: Is antimatter anti-gravity? benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-05-26 14:13 -0400
              Re: Is antimatter anti-gravity? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-05-28 00:46 +0200
                Re: Is antimatter anti-gravity? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-05-27 18:47 -0700
                Re: Is antimatter anti-gravity? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-05-28 08:59 +0200
                Re: Is antimatter anti-gravity? "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-05-28 12:49 -0700
                Re: Is antimatter anti-gravity? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-05-28 13:10 -0700
                Re: Is antimatter anti-gravity? benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-05-28 16:29 -0400
                Re: Is antimatter anti-gravity? HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-05-28 16:57 -0700
                Re: Is antimatter anti-gravity? benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-05-28 20:09 -0400
                Re: Is antimatter anti-gravity? "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-05-30 15:22 -0700
                Re: Is antimatter anti-gravity? "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-05-30 17:48 -0700
                Re: Is antimatter anti-gravity? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-05-28 16:28 -0500
                antijohn cersus johnboy noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-05-28 15:22 -0700
                Re: antijohn cersus johnboy Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-05-29 12:46 +0200
                Re: antijohn cersus johnboy john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-05-29 07:36 -0700
                Re: antijohn cersus johnboy john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-05-29 09:10 -0700
                Re: antijohn cersus johnboy Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-05-30 20:21 +0200
                waves in anti-\matter noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-05-31 10:34 -0700
                Re: antijohn cersus johnboy Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-05-31 09:20 -0500
                Re: antijohn cersus johnboy john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-05-31 07:58 -0700
                Re: antijohn cersus johnboy Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-05-31 10:45 -0500
                Re: antijohn cersus johnboy john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-05-31 16:04 -0700
                Re: antijohn cersus johnboy moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-06-01 01:30 +0000
                Re: antijohn cersus johnboy Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-06-01 09:37 -0500
                Re: antijohn cersus johnboy john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-06-01 09:25 -0700
                Re: antijohn cersus johnboy Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-06-01 12:38 -0500
                Re: antijohn cersus johnboy noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-05-29 12:00 -0700
                Re: antijohn cersus johnboy Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-05-29 23:14 +0200
                Re: antijohn cersus johnboy Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-05-31 09:16 -0500
                Re: Is antimatter anti-gravity? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-05-29 03:39 +0200
                Re: Is antimatter anti-gravity? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-05-29 03:29 +0200
  Re: Is antimatter anti-gravity? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-05-30 21:09 +0200

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