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| From | Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.os.linux.misc |
| Subject | Re: Linux needs less fragmentation |
| Date | 2026-10-08 15:25 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <nipnemFmrjqU1@mid.individual.net> (permalink) |
| References | (6 earlier) <nige8jFoo9pU34@mid.individual.net> <cpWdneUfD_vF0173nZ2dnZfqn_udnZ2d@giganews.com> <119vn39$mtek$13@dont-email.me> <nii4iaFhu1lU1@mid.individual.net> <11a0r44$179lq$3@dont-email.me> |
The Natural Philosopher wrote: > SD caches a block when reading. > > And IIRC a larger page when writing > > Erase blocks are even larger > > IN all cases response shows no 'seek' delays. > > Writes are fully cached and written behind in SSD time. The application > has no control, over that. > > Ultimately Linux cacheing is probably completely irrelevant. By themselves, SSDs have no concept of which blocks are in-use by the host's filesystem, use of TRIM commands allow O/S to tell the internal controller to mark unused blocks for coalescing into larger blocks for erasing. So no they don't care in terms of seek times, or needing traditional defragging, but they do care in terms of avoiding extra writes during garbage collection (blocks can't be overwritten, only re-written within those larger erased blocks).
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Re: Linux needs less fragmentation Michael Logies <logies@t-online.de> - 2026-10-04 23:33 +0200
Re: Linux needs less fragmentation The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-05 09:20 +0100
Re: Linux needs less fragmentation Leroy H <lh@somewhere.net> - 2026-10-04 21:44 +0000
Re: Linux needs less fragmentation rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-05 01:53 +0000
Re: Linux needs less fragmentation c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-05 03:14 -0400
Re: Linux needs less fragmentation The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-05 09:28 +0100
Re: Linux needs less fragmentation "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-05 19:20 +0200
Re: Linux needs less fragmentation The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-05 19:43 +0100
Re: Linux needs less fragmentation Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-10-08 15:25 +0100
Re: Linux needs less fragmentation The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-08 15:29 +0100
Re: Linux offers choice, BSD offers fragmentation Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-10-08 20:59 +0000
Re: Linux needs less fragmentation c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-09 02:42 -0400
Re: Linux needs less fragmentation "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-09 20:47 +0200
Re: Linux offers choice, BSD offers fragmentation Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-10-09 21:20 +0000
Re: Linux offers choice, BSD offers fragmentation "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-09 23:27 +0200
Re: Linux offers choice, BSD offers fragmentation c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-10 04:01 -0400
Re: Linux offers choice, BSD offers fragmentation c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-11 04:31 -0400
Re: Linux needs less fragmentation Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-10-05 18:57 +0000
Re: Linux needs less fragmentation The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-05 20:08 +0100
Re: Linux needs less fragmentation Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-10-05 20:18 +0000
Re: Linux needs less fragmentation Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-06 08:34 +0100
Re: Linux needs less fragmentation The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-06 11:17 +0100
Re: Linux needs less fragmentation c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-06 23:59 -0400
Re: Linux needs less fragmentation rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-06 14:39 +0000
Re: Linux needs less fragmentation Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-10-06 13:50 -0400
Re: Linux needs less fragmentation The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-05 09:25 +0100
Re: Linux needs less fragmentation rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-05 19:36 +0000
Re: Linux needs less fragmentation "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-05 21:49 +0200
Re: Linux needs less fragmentation rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-06 02:35 +0000
Re: Linux needs less fragmentation Philippe <p.naudin+nntp@free.fr> - 2026-10-06 08:13 +0200
Re: Linux needs less fragmentation "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-06 11:12 +0200
Re: Linux needs less fragmentation rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-06 14:48 +0000
Re: Linux needs less fragmentation The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-05 09:19 +0100
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