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| From | "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | uk.telecom.broadband, alt.comp.software.thunderbird |
| Subject | Re: IMAP and POP |
| Date | 2026-10-04 20:38 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <nifkpdF5jmcU9@mid.individual.net> (permalink) |
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Cross-posted to 2 groups.
On 2026-10-04 18:02, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
> Carlos E. R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>> On 2026-10-03 20:29, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>>> Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:
>>>> J. P. Gilliver wrote:
>>>>> Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>
>>>>>> Whether the client keeps folders in sync is supported by the protocol.
>>>>>> It's not a requirement. I don't sync.
>
>>>>> I'll freely admit I know nearly nothing about IMAP, but if you _don't_
>>>>> sync, what is its advantage?
>
>>>> Most IMAP users will choose to sync the inbox, sent items, and perhaps
>>>> spam and drafts folders, with most servers you can create any other
>>>> folders you like to organise the mailbox, they won't automatically sync,
>>>> but most clients will let you choose ...
>
>>> I would not phrase it like that.
>
>>> Like pine/alpine, IMAP was written at UWash to support its own students
>>> who used email, perhaps for the first time at college.
>
>>> pine and alpine don't sync.
>
>> Fetchmail downloads. I have used pop3 or imap with fetchmail to download
>>from remote servers to local machine, to then read with Pine.
>
> alpine has a fetchmail-equivalent feature (or may call fetchmail)
> called Maildrop, which downloads messages from an inbox on a remote
> host. I don't use it myself. I believe the host receiving the messages
> may also be remote. I suppose the inbox could be on a local host! That's
> the wonderful thing about handling messages, as the client and the inbox
> or folder of archived messages may be on different hosts, without caring
> about remote versus local.
>
>>> The protocol supports syncing but it's a Mail client feature. The user
>>> must both desire syncing and choose a Mail client like Thunderbird that
>>> syncs. There may be Mail clients invoked from the Unix or linux shell
>>> that both support IMAP and syncing, but someone else will have to tell
>>> us. In my opinion, syncing increases the chance of an unwanted handling
>>> of a message because there is more than one host affected.
>
>>> Syncing is undesireable. Other users want syncing despite this increased
>>> risk of mishandling.
>
>> As we have the Thunderbird group in these posts, TB syncs just fine. I
>> never noticed a problem, using more than one computer.
>
> I didn't say that syncing failed. I'm saying that the user may
> misunderstand that the user may delete the message on one host without
> understanding that it will also get deleted at the other host upon
> syncing, and that he needed to move it from the inbox into an archive
> message folder immediately upon first reading it in the inbox.
Ah! Yes.
Can be done automatically, with the aid of a TB filter.
>
>> Unless you are working offline, then the local version might differ from
>> the remote version.
>
> But I'm not supposed to store messages in the inbox in the first place!
> I should be archiving them in folders as I check the inbox!
>
> I swear I'll get to the backlong in my inbox some day.
>
> Seriously, IMAP works so nicely with multiple hosts, syncing gives me no
> added advantage.
--
Cheers,
Carlos E.R.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺.
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